As a player, why don't I play Soviet BR5

It’s literally just Russian Type hei auto.

It should be SF rifle with slightly lower dmg per bullet, but slightly higher capacity mag

They definitely shouldn’t be experimenting with stuff like this until we don’t have ±0 MM.

This could be easily used to justify further powercreep on BR3.

Unnecessary, we already have 2 factions with 20rnd mag SF rifles.

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So what do you want? 25 round SF is too much, while 15 is too little, I actually dont hate the current state of affairs, Soviets have a better SF but its more limited by being a gun for assaulters. Rest of the squad will take 15 round guns.

Its an interesting way to balance BR5 in my opinion

It is not.

25 rifle with lower dmg - still less than 30 japanese had. (Hopefully Soviet vs Japs will eventually happen)

15 rifle with higher dmg - still less than 20 German have.

I think it’s completely fair for Soviets, as they have other benefits. Like body armors, or overall very versatile equipment.

This is irrelevant - Fedorov kills with one shot against vitality just like type hei.

Also Type Hei is terribly OP - Assault rifle capacity combined with one shot kills is ridiculous.
If Soviets ever get to fight Japs this however will become an interesting debate - because Type hei will one hit kill US players while Soviet body armor will turn them into two hit kill rifles.

Yeah, at 10 metres distance. And dmg drop off apparently doesn’t exists.

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True - but most combat is in medium to short range, well arguably this should change with map design, capzones getting bigger and rallies moving further back, but in general one hit kills especially up close matter.

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Fixed.

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Because the Mosin is a MAN’s rifle Chads use.

Or they are bots… :stuck_out_tongue:

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Oh really? Then explain those squads:
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Do you really think that Soviets care about your rules made up for Krauts? I never run infantry squads with SF rifles as Germany as they are too inaccurate and not as reliable as STG44/MG42 100 (only with bipod). Having just 20 rounds for your gun is just bad if it can’t shoot straight without bursting. I like my single rifleman squad for USA with T20/M2 mixed up and ofc for Japan Hei Automatic is mandatory as it’s only usable weapon at BR5 for them.

Not many people are using Shpagin smg as it has 800rpm instead of 1100rpm and worse visual recoil (but better dispersion), average German player has no equivalent of PPSh-41 and you rarely see people using mp717(r). AS-44 is just a better STG44 so in both cases Soviets have advantage.

i use it on my guerilla and it’s fine it just shows how you don’t really need higher rof than 670 even at BR5 only dmg sucks but you can do fine while going to headshots and that gun is really accurate

And who’s going to use bolts at BR5? Mate it completely destroys german smgs and ARs effectiveness and forces their already weaker guns to perform even worse and shoot yet another bullet, while Feddy got buffed and can 1hk Vit Germans no problem at close range.

Here we go. You acted like everyone has Shpagin smg and Conders/Mp717(r) as both teams but now act like nobody has paratroopers and nkvd squad so decide yourself. If we have all gold order weapons and event squads or not. You can’t avoid that topic about Conders being power creeped by NKVD Thompson, Conders is much weaker than their weapon and also buffed Tommy 100.

here comes the massive cope and skill issue. Not only you are owning them like crazy but also even while losing (due teammates) will rank always over 100 kills and make those players cry in pain and not want to play the next match as their blood pressure will reach unhealthy levels.
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7 soldiers with those guns are much stronger than a single squad of Germans carrying FG42 II that i will destroy one after another.

Rest of the post are a cope, Tiger dies easily vs my fausts/t-34-100/is-2/bombs, LA-7 is a really good plane and i have destroyed many German planes with that thing it has better turn rate than any German plane at BR5, and Su-9 is just a better jet than me262 when fighting vs other planes. Their only weakness is anti-infantry capability is not as good as one on German planes.

this is one squad without an armor-piercer, available only to those who participated in the old event or poured a lot of silver into the veteran’s boxes, the second is literally a paid squad with the inability to carry full ammunition, and the third is the same as the first but still with basic ammunition and do not tell me that the paratroopers have an advantage in landing, I would he said that on the contrary, in some cases it is a disadvantage because in order to take on armor-piercer or engineers for them, it is necessary to land, and this is longer and more dangerous than just appearing at the point
And these are still 6-man squads, not 9, and the inaccuracy of the fg 42 is clearly exaggerated by you, at least you still don’t deny its firepower in a 9-man squad.

your statement about the disadvantage of the Shpagin submachine gun contradicts the statement that LAD is an excellent weapon, it is worse both in accuracy and rate of fire than Shpagin, and I would call the rate of fire of the Shpagin submachine gun ideal to have a sufficiently long time of continuous firing and fire density, the PPSh 41 has a higher density, but this is a minus because it has already died The opponents eat at least 1-2 bullets before the turn reaches the next opponent.

Did I say something about 5BR bolts? I didn’t say that.

I didn’t confirm this, I just noticed that compared to the PPSh 41, the Shpagin is much better, and that it would be more correct to say that the Shpagin submachine gun is the best smg, and not the PPSh 41. In my opinion, it is generally inferior to its version with a 3-its combat rating, at least it has accuracy, and the ppsh literally A bullet sprayer, there’s no question of accuracy.

and you know what’s even stronger, I’m a good player with 9-man German units from FG 42 2, the only reason not to use such a set is boredom, but otherwise with such a set you can defend and attack equally effectively.

of course, all tanks are easily killed by fausts, you also tell me that the vulnerable areas of the t34 100 and Tiger 2 are the same in a duel with each other(Sarcasm), and the claims about the superiority of the su-9 over the Me262 are not clear to me at all, superior in what? A more powerful cannon? Well, is she alone, maneuverability? well, yes… the Me262 turns in 28 seconds, and the Su-9 in 29. According to the War Thunder cards, this is not a big enough gap to consider the Su-9 weaker than the Me262, which means that it is weaker? I do not know, in terms of ammunition, there are also not unambiguously 200 shells for two 23mm guns and 40 for a 37mm gun for the su-9 and only 360 shells for four 30mm guns for the Me262, I think that talking about the superiority of the firepower of the su-9 compared to the Me262 will also be false. Well, it’s hard for me to estimate the speed, the cards indicate the maximum speed at some height, but I have no idea at what, but so far all the characteristics are +- equal

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