Anti tank stuff ok, PIAT not so much?

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Piat/Sturmpistole is fine, tankers just need to see where there ammo is and configure how much ammo they hold. People just play WT and know the tank weak spots, they need to aim directly at it (tank/stationary AT get a shotgun effect when they hit, piat/sturm pistole goes completely straight.)

WORLD WAR 2 TANKS WHERE NOT FRONT LINE SOLO MACHINES, their limited vision makes them really easy to get around and need infantry support. Also dont stay in a place too long, reposition ESPECIALLY AS LIGHT TANKS!

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Projecting much? U are the one who wrote a rant because a good player killed u with a piat, i have no issues with tanks killing me, they are 0 skill but they are not unbalanced since infantry can in fact counter them just fine.

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Jesus dude, your ego it’s so big u can’t even admit that you were in fact ranting against a weapon just because it stopped u, this passive aggressivness of yours is not a good trait just saying, u can try to insult my intelligence all day, it won’t change a thing, your 0 skill tank can’t do shit againt the piat, deal with it.

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Insulting your intelligence will keep me happy as otherwise I’d die of hopelessness for the humanity after reading your posts. The whole thing I wrote was me sharing my experience and asking if anyone feels the same, and if not, what to do to counter the PIAT

see here, you may succeed in reading this on the second try.
In return, you replied with a single sentence that was not only toxic af, but missing the point of this whole thread as well. Then you just keep being more and more annoying without actually adding anything to the conversation. If someone has a big ego here, it ain’t me pal.

Here you yourself admit that it is a weapon with no risk. That’s bad game design, you yourself admitted right here that what I was talking about was at least partly correct. But blinded by your hate for tanks you just rant away.

You get 300 points for killing a tank, you yourself admitted that it is easy to do so. Tanks often end up first, but not because they are “OP” but because they get 4 assists for every kill, inflating their score. And even with this inflated score, tanks are less often first then infantry squads. Get in a tank yourself and try it. Here I am, an infantry main, who plays both planes and tanks as well to see things from different points of view trying to reason with a toxic jackass infantry only, who has no idea how the game works and has no idea about the balance of vehicles.

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If you gave a single rational argument throughout this whole tread I might’ve not treated you like and absolute idiot but here we are.

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Dude just stop, u are not stupid, u know how hard is to kill a tank as an infantry man.I said the piat is without risks because is safer than the only aternative, the tnt, witout that a tank can mow down entire squads witout a scratch and even with the piat most of the times u will need multiple hits to even kill a crewmember, a crappy pz 3 can tank 5 piat grenades no problem, that’s why playing a tank or a plane is playing easy mode. U asked for a weakness for a weapon that is already pretty damm weak unless u get a lucky shot in the ammo rack, easier said than done and one last thing u probably forgot, if the soldier with the piat dies the entire squad is screwed,u should know that almost everything can oneshot a soldier, u can’t imagine how many times i failed to kill a tank simply because my piat soldier was already dead.

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I have so much tnt I can equip every single one of my soldiers with it and still have a stockpile. With every tnt you can get a tank kill. You know you can cook tnt so there is no time for the tanker to react right? Also there is a close combat such as towns on almost every map, where killing a tank is easier then killing a single soldier. As a tank you get a visual as if scoped in with a sniper, mobility of a downed soldier, and a reload time of 6 whole seconds. I have around 4 tank kills per match just with pure tnt infantry.

??? what? Just because you don’t know where to aim it, doesn’t mean that other people don’t. It goes through almost every armor, one shots tracks, transmition, tank crew and even the whole tank if you aim right. It’s not “lucky ammo hit” it’s called aiming it at the ammo. And it’s easy once you spent like 10 seconds on a 3d model of the vehicle you are shooting at. I have both oneshotted tanks with piat/sturm pistol and got one shotted as a tanker.
Tank job is by no means an easy job, once again, try it yourself. Tnt one shots all the tanks and if used properly (which is not hard) it has no counter play other then already mentioned "don’t ram into enemy infantry with a tank). But if you don’t ram into enemy infantry with a tank, there is hardly a chance that it can

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the ammo rack it’s 100% rng, u should know it, the same hit won’t always have the same outcome, sometimes it detonates the ammo and sometimes it doesen’t, not to mention that you have to be at the right angle to shoot at it in the heat of the battle where everything it’s lethal while the tank it’s safe from almost every threat, yes the tank it’s slow and can’t see shit and yet it remains a lethal threat for infantry unless as you said yourself it get’s too close, every decent player knows that and camps far away from the first line obliterating poor bastard with the main gun, if you get destroyed by tnt you fucked up, it’s simple as that.

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I’ll make this the last message as I can see we’ve at least made it back to talking as people. I with certainty can say, that I can consistently one shot enemy tanks with AT weapons and get one shotted as a tank by them as well. Most objective are hidden inside close combat areas, meaning a camping tank can kill whoever he wants, it’s not gonna help with the objective, to help the objective, he has to get into the streets where it’s easy picking. Can AT weapons perform somewhat random at times? Yes they can, but you get about 3 shots before a tank even notices where you are/reloads, plus you get more then one bomber per squad. If people feel like PIAT is fine as it is, I’m fine with it, I just wanted to know how people feel about it. Good luck getting better at hitting ammo racks as it does get easier with time. Peace

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You do not get to configure ammo in Enlisted like you do in WT.

PIATs must have improved a truckload since CBT - haven’t played Normandy in OBT yet, but they were essentially useless in CBT

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“tankers just need to see where there ammo is and configure how much ammo they hold.”

As they need it as an option.

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It’s the same case with the sturmpistole, just again if someone can get 3 ENTIRE shots into your side or back. YOU ARE WAY PAST YOUR INFANTRY OR YOU’RE NOT BEING COVERED.

you just confirmed with that you’re not using tanks properly if someone just piats you 3 times in a row, and none of your buddies help you it’s a team issue than.

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Always funny to see that tank players are the saltiest kind of people. And that in every game, that has tanks and infantry in it.

I never ever had problems to perform good/ get lots of kills when playing as a tank, I find it even really easy.
Often enough I even run out of HE-shells, even though I am at the frontline, trying to provide the best support for my team (not spamming HE from far away). Sooner or later someone manages to kill me eventually, but that is okay, since dying is part of a multiplayer game and noone should be invincible.
If you consider that there are many players like me who frequently run out of ammo (I see many threads in this forum of people who ask for ways to restock their tanks ammo) it seems that AT should be even buffed (if anything) or at least made easier accessible.
In my opinion it is not a sign of good balance if a tank at the frontline manages to survive so long, to run out of ammo. Imagine what he could do with even more ammunition.

If you struggle to perform good as a tanker it seems to me, that you do something wrong.
In case you do not struggle, I don’t see what the point of this thread is.

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TBH this guy constantly asks for USA nerfs (even though since piat/sturm pistol are equal in power (sturm is harder to spot when on the back than the float grass PIAT’s, when i play german sniper).

He says america air is in a good place because they can turn better (but ignores how german planes have better energy conversion going up and down. So you’re not supposed to use the same evasive maneuvers in a P-38 and BF-110. Also ignores the BF109 that has the same bomb as the bomber plane AND is a light fighter, sure it can only do one run but you also have to think light fighters are more designed for air to air (american light needs direct bomb drops, it’s essentially dropping amped frag grenades that do TNT damage in their aoe kill radius).

Issue is one sides fighting style is not the same in this game, and constantly fails to see USA is really on the losing side in most comparisons.

Infantry: FG42 has both less recoil and 1 shot kills unlike the M2, the Geweher has more total ammo and more shots per clip

Sniper: Get the sniper g42 at sniper 2, where america gets it on sniper 3, which the USA sniper on sniper 2… gets the SPRINGFIELD… but AGAIN! and they get the FG-42 early addition. So WOO sniper gets early access to the 20 round Geweher if you single click it or can go full auto.

Tanks: Until the Sherman (on par)/Sherman Jumbo (best) they have the clear winners
Light tank 90 KPH vs 60 KPH on something designed to flank big tanks (so being faster is better), or wants to fire and reposition (so being faster is better as neither will win versus the medium tanks. Artillery tank, lets see the M8 can be taken out by a guy with a luger… and is paper thin… and the germans get a medium tank with artillery tank stats, than equal, than better.

Planes: Again for air to air, if you know your fights they’re on par, but from air to ground. German is superior, their heavy plane can single rocket a sherman jumbo out of existance (so it easily pens 70mm of top armor), or they get a 250kg bomb dropped on them and again instantly out from either the light fighter/bomber.

The only discussion is the A-20 is the better bomber because if you know what you’re doing you can still dab on the fighters who don’t know what they’re doing. But will be one shot in a barrage of 37mm cannon fire, and the 37mm fire barage has the effective range of the P37 rockets (but you know 90 rounds of it instead of 3).

LMG: Issue is America gets the Bren… and the American Bren, which is again comparable to the breda .30, nothing wrong with that but they get flavor and MG’s good for running and gunning the MG38/42 (right now current LMG is a whole bag of worms, since they play with all the benefits of full auto smgs on the run, with bigger clips and higher ROF with bullets that one shot.

Assault: Mixed bag, the shotgun is really good but in an SMG comparison the 40 round level 5 smg/MP40 is the god tier of early SMG’s and again than if you go for RoF late SMG, germany wins. Last SMG right now is just the german smg but no bipod (so just worst once bipods work correctly.)

IDK why he bitches about USA OP, when playing both. USA only really has. Sherman Jumbo/Lee Enfield (which you just generally replace with Semi auto’s…)/A-20… when Germany has pretty much everything better.

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