Since my last post about this was hidden ill expand upon it.
For those who dont know, there are people who instead of destroying a spawn point when they see it, they put an anti personnel mine so that when an enemy squad spawns they all die…
This should be removed. There are people who stay waiting for the spawn point to become avaiable, waste their time, so they just die and wait again…
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Can confirm, did happen to me too just yesterday.
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that’s the whole point of putting a mine on the rally point.
but " jokes aside "
that is actually a valid strat and i’d argue, quite important.
even though, haven’t manged to do it my self, i just straight up shoot the rallies.
it does somewhat suck getting blown up, but it’s not that big of a deal.
it’s not a bug though
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because it allows you to kill an enemy squad, hence draining the attacker tickets, and get rid of the rally point it self.
which, for the defenders, opposed to the tickets ( since they don’t have those ) they spend time in the loading screen.
having less manpower at the front. and essentially buy some time.
i’d say it’s super effective and a valid strat.
fair point.
but, looking how things are, i’m afraid it’s debatable. and more subjective.
heck, i’d argue it would be fun blasting people with a mine on a rally. unfortunately, i have never managed to do it, because i don’t really carry mines, nor be alive that long near rally points. so i always end up just shooting them because of fear missing the chance of destroying it and potentially die.
well, as much as i don’t particular like getting blown up by spawning in a mined rally point,
i do respect it.
because it’s not often easy to find the rally point, survive enough to find it, and / or have a mine to place in the first place.
due to being a fast paced game, i’d say fair play to them.
and, don’t wanna point fingers, but if you died near the rally point, ( or even if you didn’t ) and you see that the rally point is becoming gray for a moment and then it doesn’t, it could always be a great indification of someone have been there.
hence, you either take the risk of blowing up, or go for the safe route and spawn from the default spawn.
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Stop crying, suck it up and try to mine the enemy rally point yourself instead of whining.
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nah too fun seeing the smartass enemy try to mine my spawn just to die by my own mine i placed on my spawn for this exact reason.
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Man, wars are won by doing a fair share of trolling the enemy, prevent the rotation of units, shelling of a training camp, destroying the supplies, all of those are good equivalents to the old mine on spawn.
Also, you can just try to put some of your own mines around the friendly spawn to defend it.
As I said, suck it up
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its a historically accurate strategy to put traps into enemies logistics, there is no reason it all for this to be forbidden.
also you can:
- defend rallies
- build better hidden rallies
- drop your own ap mine on your rally so the enemy will die trying to mine your rally
- drop some decoy sandbags in the vicinity of your real rally so enemies get frustrated checking every sandbag for a rally
- be creative and THINK about strategy instead of whining for nerfs
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Yes… irl people spawn out of nowhere from a radio trasmitor…
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read the definition of logistics, think about it for 5 min how it applies to this game, then try commenting again. your comment proofs how you dont think before you complain, same think as with the whining in the original post. its normal for the majority of online people nowadays, but its definitely not the source of opinions this game can afford being build upon.
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That’s the fun of it though, doesn’t help the game spawn system is dogshite for both side
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Hm…
I wonder what exactly a rally point even is, what would be it’s real life equivalent?
A rally point in real life would be a staging ground of forces, where they can regroup.
A rally point in this game… is basically a way for players to return to battle faster. It is a tiny radio transmitter, that allows an infantry squad to spawn.
Frankly, I don’t think a rally point should function if the enemy was near the rally point. A way to disarm the mines, without making them explode, would be good to go.
Unless we really want to imagine this… sabotage of rally point as… a form of representing special forces/agents acting behind the enemy lines?
Is stated on the same comment you quoted:
Ma boy up there inventing the candle… is already like that genius, the player is the one who chooses to spawn on a rally point that was blocked for minutes without any friendly squad nearby, it clearly was found and mined but some people still chooses to do it and get mad afterwards.
As said before, stop crying and get good
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I’m not crying.
I’m asking for a way to make sense of this in-game mechanic, so that I can handwave it as ‘realism’.
Not everyone has the time to look around it’s surroundings, Some intense close quarters battles tend to dull the person’s sense at times, and if the player knows that allies in the near vicinity of a rally point have been disappearing/otherwise been absent, I tend to believe that this player is spending a considerable amount of time in a respawn window than an actual battle.
I will show it the third time:
Okay, now with that done let’s get the rest
Yeah, is a bet that you make… I die spawning on rallies too, I die walking doors or windows mined, you bet on the other team not being smart and sometimes you lose, every player does that, just suck it up and try something else the next time.
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So basically as I’ve assumed here:
Very well.
I suppose then mining rally points means a rough in game equivalent of commandos/special forces/other saboteur agents acting behind enemy lines.
Not much else to try out for free to play players. 3 infantry and 1 vehicle squad does not offer that many options. Remembering the slaughterhouse in Beloe lake, there was very little that I could do.
Aside from deserting and finding a better match.
Though, 2 vehicle slots for F2P players could help.
But anyway, thanks for answers.
There are a couple of really easy counters to this:
- Build the rally point where its not so easily found or accessible to the enemy.
- Find a better location
- placing the rally as close as possible to an objective is not always a good solution. Walking back 5-10m and placing it inside a building rather than out in the open can do wonders.
- Use mines of your own to defend them!!!
- place mines in the entryway or nearby vicinity where enemies may come from. It will usually kill them before they have the opportunity to tamper with it.
BONUS:
Place your rally points inside of buildings, and block the nearby WINDOWS that are facing the enemies with sandbags.
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This not only more likely forces them through the doorway, but stops bullets and blast fragmentation from coming near your rally point, which could stop it from allowing spawns for a few moments.
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Place mines in the doorway and the area leading up to the doorway. You will easily kill off anyone hunting rally points.
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Yeah, right, the options are indeed limited, but I’ve been playing it and didn’t buy a single thing since OBT release, certainly there are options and ways around, if there aren’t then there’s nothing to do other than accept the other team outplayed you and again, suck it up.
If that’s necessary for you to play the game imagine wtf you want, it doesn’t matter what is the “reality” version of a in game mechanic.
And that’s how you show the enemy where you rally point is at the same time you bottleneck the exits making easier to farm people coming out of it, my tank and MGs appreciate.
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Didn’t spent any gold or real currency either.
Yes, what a time to worship Slaanesh, and other equivalent deities of masochism…
Well…
If the game was completely detached from reality, I’m not sure why’d I play it in the first place.
Personally, I’m looking for a game that does offer some measure of believability, that otherwise can be called ‘realism’.
That’s part of the reason why I went here, rather than stayed at Heroes and Generals;
And to warthunder, rather than staying at WoTs and WoWS…
In either case, I think that mining rally points tend to happen rarely. I’ve been in just a few matches where this occured to me.
Being able to mine rallies is good actually
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