definitely not the first time this has been suggested, but i have a different iteration which might have an ideal solution.
anyway, to conclude my consequential 3 parts thread, this one should be the final one.
in case you missed the first two;
A bit of context
Greetings, today i came with yet another proposition.
One that I would have liked to avoid, but when it comes to cosmetics, one or way another, things always have to backtrack.
Hence, without having to waste further time, here are the main points of this suggestion that tries to tackle
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make use of current mechanics without having to waste further time by introducing new ones
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Incentivize premium squads appeal and increase eventual sales even if not “ up to date “ or competitive enough for some people
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Allow players to customize other squads with premium or event appearences onto more squads for personal taste. While allowing to make countless new, unique and different combinations.
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Not to limit and hardlock amazing cosmetic pieces behind few squads and nowhere else.
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justify the prices of some of these squads… while getting something nice
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increases… collectors ( ? not… sure about this one. i know i’ll be on the hunt for more cosmetics so… there is that )
With that in Mind,
Main Suggestion:
I think I have found a solution of making premium squads more interesting and also … finding a temporary solution to the artificial scarsity of uniforms for certain presets or factions.
And in order to do so, we are going to borrow two existing mechanics.
- receiving cosmetic items locked behind requirement upon it’s unlock
- Bundle cosmetics
So, the first one, more or less is known.
For those Who remember, during a specific bp, players were able to get said hat as a bp reward around specific levels. But only 3/6.
Luckily, it was never done ever again due to being nothing more than half baked though out “system “ Which was more limiting than anything.
As you could only get 3 hats for 3 soldiers in 1 preset out of the 3s ( moscow, stalingrad and battle of the bulge. Or technically, only 1 soldier for all the winter presets… the same guy that for some reason needs to have 3 of the same hats… )
But worse, this system gate kept cosmetic(s) item to a single and no longer obtainable bp once expired. If you missed out, no way to get them.
However such feature can be Sort of brought back and improved significantly.
Without needing too much to change. Aka, change the requirements to be assigned behind squad ids. Like tags or decorations. With the exception, the cosmetics item will be given if you have the squad.
And to use it alongside a new system.
if i’m being honest, i have no idea if these are even true, or fabricated. but we could use them as a concept for today suggestion.
Which it is still, kinda unknown.
But based on not so deep detective work, its probably tied to some sort of bundle system.
Which they could reuse it and tied it with the purchase of premium squads to include also cosmetics with it.
how would this work? What are the prerequisites
Well, relatively simple.
All what the players will have to do, is to buy the premium squads that they like, and upon receiving said Squads the game will give also these uniforms bundle of ( 60 to 80 ) uniforms enough to cover at least 6 squads for both high and low brs ( additional uniforms can be bought in the store for appearances cards. But honestly, there shouldn’t be a need given how some of these premium squads cost. This wouldnt have been necessary if players wouldnt have to buy the same item for the same soldiers due to not being shared among the customizaion pool for whatever reason )
Disclaimer:
And for those Who already purchased premium squads in the past, and has some event squads already, they will automatically be given the uniforms bundle. …( when this system will be implemented )
What then ?
Once a uniform bundle will be received, players will be able to use said cosmetics onto any other Squads that they would like to use that uniform. Just like it worked for the bp hat.
This way only players that bought or unlocked some of the squads can use them with no restrictions ( Beside of course, campaign presets. in order to avoid cosmetics that shouldn’t go or be in others. IE, Winter cosmetics lock them or make them not show up in tunisia, viceversa, etc ) onto ANY other Squad.
NOTE:
items may vary because often said premium squads have more than 1 " unique " items.
for example, let’s take as just one example, the premium radiomen squad:
i recently found out, that they have at least two unique tunics opposed as one:
or in the event radioman squad scenario:
they get a new gray hat, a grey M44 tunic, and a grey Coat:
( the… gray hat is currently bugged. but it should look like instead of being bald lol )
and plenty more of unique yet cool cosmetics that would be great to use on a variety of squad.
or even mix with other units.
why ?
Well, personally i would have much prefered if all cosmetics ( except rare ones or less common ones ) were available to everyone. perhaps being charged double the price due to being a premium item. That way, still feasible to obtain but more expensive to apply on other squads.
As i find rather dumb that for example, splintertarn camouflages or some of the other more common parkas are being limited to some premium units, yet everyone can wear officer hats with no care in the world. Or worse, sumptarn camouflages are outright hardlocked to premium Squad like the mg45 Which is no longer obtainable, or the paratrooper versions locked to event and premium only. Making cosmetics much rare than they were in real lifE.
Or like the us tan m42 and olive are only behind the premium para squad.
But since 2 years of said suggestion and 0 work getting done to the customization in general. im not getting my hopes up.
Hence, the idea is to actually give them reasons and incentives to implement it.
Therefore, if premium and event squads are worth to get for their cosmetics, more money for devs, and more choices for players.
A win win situation for everyone.
but the problem of them all, which i do not like of one bit, is that i can’t for example, dress my 82nd airborne with their actual uniform.
we have access to the pants, but no access to the lighter tan or olive m42 tunic:
while premiums do:
wants to use paratrooper/luftwaffe ground units?
too bad.
you can’t outside few very specific squads type in very specific campaigns.
want to use the early m35 summer tunic in stalingrad? the very same most produced tunic of the war?
you can’t outside the premium partizan squad.
same goes for the ameba camouflage.
want to have australian units with their iconic sloch hats?
and with more than just a sniper rifle or a austen “5” man smg?
no can’t do.
too many of these rather common pieces often locked behind premium.
considerations
Imo, all premium and event uniforms should be eligible With the exception of ghillies, body armors ( no cosmetics should affect gameplay. period ) or ultra rare camouflages such as the ebernmuster. or, chinese squads as well as auxiliary / other nations squads. like moroc and any other french squads.
Those should still be limited. But its up for developers judgement.
Another consideration,
I avoided talking regarding missmatching pouches.
Mostly because i covered that part in my previous suggestion:
Hence, the base cosmetics will be fine even if without pouches as far this suggestion goes.
( as hopefully will be changed based on pouches equipment. But that will have its own dedicated thread )
Some of my Results with the editor
i love doing custom clothings and new iterations of soldiers.
what i hate, is that i cannot reproduce them in the game for my base squads:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/760432015920332851/1244727177426108576/shot_2024.05.27_17.19.43.png?ex=686387c5&is=68623645&hm=15d545b96dc37791327b7db0306d93940a9e950977d51b9758db0e6aa7db5388&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=1603&height=902
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that is all from me.
this should be the last part of this 3 part suggestion.
i kinda wanted to cover all premium squads in details, but i do not own most of them ( or else i’d be on the streets ) so i can only cover the uniforms and their actual squad id.
not sure if it’s ideal.
but i’ll start filing it when i’ll have time.
