2 years have passed and we still don’t have this feature implemented.
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and daimler
I noticed that the Daimler armored vehicle in War Thunder does not have a separate hatch module, but I think developers can ignore this and let the commander stick his head directly through the model. It does not affect the function in terms of narrative.
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T-50 commander hatch is not there for entering/exiting the vehicle, it’s too small for it. It’s there just to signal other tanks with flags like it was usual for Soviet tanks at the time.
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It is certainly big enough to look out of, and all T-50’s had radios.
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I would make a meme of a german tank commander laughing at lack of coupola on soviet tanks.
I would, if we had a usable coupola.
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What do you think the hatch on the top of this is??
There’s clearly a hatch there - if you have an actual source that says otherwise then by all means provide it.
You know how small that is? There is literally no place to stick out his body.
No - how small is it? Do you have the dimensions?
And I didn’t say anything about a body - I said to look out of - clearly hte cupola is bigger than the hatch.
As a matter of interest, why do you think that hatch is there at all if you think you can’t even use it to look outside, and flags are not needed due to all the tanks having radio??
I made some very rough size estimations based on the first blueprint I found online (the best I can do with no info at all).
(lets not forget that in most of those cases I estimated the size of the top part of the cupola as a whole, so you need to subtract a few centimeters if you want to get the size of the hatch).
Top part of the cupola seems about 40cm max, the widest part has about the same diameter as the hatches that you actually use to enter/exit. At best you can fit your head through it (which is something that was mentioned by you later and I admit I missed).
plus, I mean, Soviet radios were notorious for being unreliable, so having a fallback is necessary even if nobody actually used the flags apparently.
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Thanks for that - 40cm would be a tight squeeze for me for sure - but I’m 105kg, and the only part of me that is significantly wider than 40cm is my shoulders - which could go through 1 at a time - not comfortably f’sure!
I can certainly think it was not a preferred means of entry, but there’s plenty of room to get head out if not shoulders out.
Everyone did - you can still buy 1944 US tank signalling flags on memorabilia sites!! Eg
Well, having it available in equipment and having to use it all the time are two different things;]
But I’ll comfort you that not only Soviet radios were notorius for being unreliable, but also every other component in the soviet tanks. A defective tank standing on the side of the road really doesn’t need signal flags. No problem at all xd.
I’m joking, of course, but there’s some truth in it;]
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I found an interesting photo and I decided to add perspective.
It doesn’t look like anybody going to fit through that hatch. Especially since it narrows at the top.
Guys didnt even bother to touch it;]
But only head? Why not.
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“designed for signal flags”
I’d like to have a source for this statement, but that we have some other proofs in this thread so ok.
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so… does this means T-50 will soon gain a new ability (and a new keybind?) to pop out a flag out of the cupolla thingy?
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theres few more in sa-kuva.fi not a single one shows t-50 with cupola hatch open.
also you can see the thing IRL here
https://www.panssarimuseo.fi/en/museum/gallery#gal_6615
Wow that is full of holes. I wonder what calibre was punching that.
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Judging what is really responsible for 60%-80% of retrievable and irretrievable losses in war? The queen of battles, that is large-caliber towed artillery (artillery shell fragments) but idk for sure (they are too symmetrical and too similar, maybe an AT rifle?). And this T-50 can be qualified as a retrievable loss even. A few months of a major renovation, a new crew, perhaps some new components (probably engine is for scrap) and it could be in fight again.
Tanks are easy to put out of action for months at a time, but total destruction is rather rare (if the front is stable and you have efficient logistics). They are usually towed away, dead crew members removed and holes welded. Back on the tracks again;]
You just don’t show it on the cameras because it’s not as impressive as ammo explosion or burning out ammunition. Ukraine is a prime example. One turret flying into space is viral, but towing dozens of riddled but repairable tanks to the rear is not.
This ww2 f*cker was welded with a hammer for example;]
(92) Gdzie młotek w czołgu #ww2 - YouTube
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