okay and?
You are absolutely right, and it makes me sad beyond measure. It’s not nazis today, but social justice warriors hooked on Instagram and Facebook… But that’s another debate 
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Oh yes, NKVD - good people, implementing the purges, killing civilians in occupied territories (Baltics), shooting deserters. Yea these guys were so awesome!
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Cant believe how brainwashed russians actually are these days
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I agree, both the SS and NKVD were terrible, and if anyone defends NKVD is just terrible. Now playing em in game doesn’t mean you support them, but saying SS should be censored while NKVD not moreover is the issue.
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Its more of an issue of law in countries. Since the USSR won it is okay to show these criminals, but since germany lost its not okay to see those criminals.
This is why the US should have listened to Patton after Germany’s surrender about attacking the Soviets, boy was he right.
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I like how this degenerated into an argument about wich secret police is LESS terrible.
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And no one has mentioned the worst one the Kenpeitai the Japanese one
There are direct mentions of NKVD in squad descriptions in Moscow as far as I know.
Facts.
Propaganda is brilliant but terrible thing to be used on any side of the globe, or in any country.
I can´t believe my own eyes and ears when I hear/see anyone glorifying NKVD.
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Funnily enough, assaulter squads have no mention of it. But they weren´t the ones I was talking about. But I should have clarified that there “is mention,” instead of “are mentions.”
Of course, Im not asking about it to be removed. Quite the contrary, no unnecessary censorship should be placed on either side.
That’s very interesting to see. I wasnt expecting that in the sniper squad describtion.
Sure, my opinion is the same.
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They only helped the common people.
By killing idiots who were hindering progress.Imagine how many of these people were agents of England\ France\USA\Germany, which did not like the USSR.And also a bunch of nationalists who, to the detriment of their people, are trying to make the country independent, which is physically impossible (a small body is always attracted to a larger one, and in politics, small states always belong to a larger state)
If the SS purposefully killed people, because the ideology of Germany was that the Germans were the best in the world, and all the rest were worthless monkeys who should either be destroyed or be slaves.
Then the NKVD killed spies, rich people, nobles and other evil spirits that hindered the development of the country (if a person cooperated, then he could well survive and become a significant and respected person, for example Konstantin Rokkosovsky, like a Polish nobleman).If they coddled every person… The USSR would not have won the war, but in general collapsed in 1917, never appearing.Of course there were innocent victims, they always are.And in the USA, and in China, and in England and in other countries still, what can we say about those times.
The NKVD is a diverse organization that performed various works, from counterintelligence to border protection.In fact, this is an ordinary organization that has been in all countries of the world and still exists.
Under capitalism, state services work for the benefit of the rich, under socialism (under communism there is no state at all) for the benefit of the state and the whole people, except for those situations when people hide behind ideology and realize their whims and ambitions.
Has the Baltic States developed much since independence after WW1?Compare this with the development of the Baltic States after 45.
And it’s very funny to me to hear about propaganda and other nonsense.I can answer it in detail, but those who say that the NKVD is evil and horror, can not reasonably say why.
It makes me laugh a lot.
Why are my brains being brainwashed by propaganda?Just why?
Why not the other way around?How can you prove that I have been brainwashed and you have the holy truth?
It was can be funny to me, if not so much sad.
There you go. One of the few “oopsies” your “heroes” commited.
I bet that anyone from Poland for example must find your propagandist bs pretty insulting.
I get it, different systems teach different things, so don´t really expect to find much understanding for your enthusiasm for yet another bunch of murderers.
But of course I´m not going to start a discussion who was worse or any kind of whataboutism.
My point is, in my (and not only mine) eyes, murder is a murder no matter who commited it, how much and why.
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And I’m just laughing.
Seriously?Your proof is the alleged massacre?Moreover, it is impossible to prove it, the Germans found the corpses in 43, when they always had anti-Soviet propaganda.
In 44, the Soviet commission concluded that the Germans had done it.
Explain to me the reason why you believe in the Nazi version?Goebbels was a propaganda genius and it cost him nothing to use this as another lie.
Maybe another case,no?
Tell me you believe all the propaganda that was fed to you, without telling me you do.
Guess between 1937 and 1938 the 600000 people killed by the NKVD were all traitors?
We all know that the NKVD were all criminals, the scum of the earth just like SS. They committed horrifying acts against all kinds if people.
So youre also trying to justify the soviet invasion of the baltics in 1940? Because of them we are still behind the west. And hilariously enough the baltic people live better than the people in russia. The biggest country in the world.
The soviets hindered the progress of ukraine, baltics, not helped them. The NKVD killed millions and are just as bad as SS.
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I knew it was coming…
Well, both Soviet and todays Russian goverments addmited that it was NKVD who is responsible for the massacre. So it is official fact, not “nazi propaganda”
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I was wondering where the troll got to. Hoped he would have found another game, or finally the Russian forum page. 
oh wait its a SS Forum Threat. dont give a Fuck on all Sides 
the Winners win and the Loosers loose i except everything you say.
Blodman gooo away,march!