AI is still embarassing

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As per title, Ai is still embarassing and unbalanced.

New behaviuors? They are totallly a joke, ur squad still doesnt shoot even if behaviour is aggressive , enemy is marked and is in front of them. Still ur squad keep turning backwards from enemy. Is really really irritating. They doesnt even return fire. And of course, they still doesnt sprint if u do.
Also ur squad seems totally unaware of any threath near them, bombs, granades, enemies.
(tested with squads with full 5 stars members only, before someone argue about that).

But enemy AI bots are even more powerfull, still turning 180 degrees in 1 second, still shooting trought brushes, walls, smokes, without any problem and still not missing any shoot. For example, u get stunned by bombs, granades, whatever, but enemy ai bots aiming doest suffer any penality by that.
And they are always aware of ur position, even if u are crawled and hidden and not shooting. Hilarious when u aim (not even shooting!) trought a sniper scope a distant ai bot and he immediately crawl.

We totally dont care about new maps, modes, squads or rewards, if the concept of squad, which makes the game funny is so broken.

In 2021, this type of Ai makes this games boring, removing interess in playing it.

And btw, in my opinion, it would have been better if u can just adjust behaviour and formations before game starts, just with a menu in main screen, lets say near weaponary and perks maybe with a new tab in which u can decide the default behaviour ur squads will have, and leaving the possiblity of changing it in battle like we do now.

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average “My bots bad, enemy bots OP” rant

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it’d be cool if they let use do this.
and option to choose the order when we switch soldier (press Y). like

  • next soldier in line (currently this)
  • next soldier who still up (not downed)
  • closes soldier
  • or specific order
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This is not a rant, i usually end often beeing the first place of team with 100+ kills.

Is just a description of ingame, without any salt.

But we dont see any pleasure in playing a game based on concept of squads, if the squds are useless.

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I agree when you said bots need some works.

but when you said enemy bots is even powerful and better than your bots, I just knew this is mostly just subjective opinion and should be take with a grain of salt.

It’s an online game, so both side should have the same bots, unless dev secretly favor one side and buff that side bots to max, of course bias doesn’t exist winkwink :v

If I say myself, it’s good that dev keep improving bots update by update.

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Enemy bots and players bots should be the same. If enemy bots immediately crawl when shooted, detect my position and return fire, so my bots should do the same. But in reality my bots turns backwards and do nothing.

They all should have same abilities, line of sights, behaviours, whatever. And should not be aware always of human players like human players are not aware of position of all enemies on map unless are cheating with a wallhack.

But as for now, is totally not like this. And is not subjective vision, is objective. And many players are angry about that.

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Fun fact:

Enemy bots are some other player’s own bots.

Your bots are some other player’s enemy bots.

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Few games that i have played since update, i have noticed that my bots are not getting as many kills as before, and considering Keofox said that stance is set to aggressive now?, and if stance is aggressive, then, they seem worse than, before
that i find my self sort of agreeing to

And playing games where its me and 1-2 real people, on my team, due to time zones etc, i do notice this.
Def thought i would see bots attack and , well be more aggressive, and i am not seeing that.

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well…

yes, but actually no.

yes, bots are worse than before,

no, they are not completely useless.

just like any other thing in this game, you have to baby sit them.

( although, it’s a bit hard with personal command not working ) .

and let me tell you, that if you charge the point and expect them to be the next terminator, i can’t say anything else but your expectation are too high.

just like in real life, you will take majority of the casualties.

you can’t really send in open fields with no cover towards the objective and expect that they survive.

that’s not… how the game is supposed to work.

on the other hand, they do be really dumb sometimes.
formations are useless if you use the " hold " button, so i still have to figure out how to use them properly in defence ( since as a “”"“main”""" german player, majority of the campaign you defend ).

but all things considered, they are not bad, but there’s alwats large room for improvements.

although this thread doesn’t really give many suggestions on how to fix the whole thing.

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To be fair I have played games with better FPS AI that are 20 years old…

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I certainly do not use this way, my bot, more valuable to me, alive :stuck_out_tongue: :smiley:

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That’s not true. I noticed great difference between AI that accompanies human player and fully controlled AI squad. The ones with human player are only good as mobile spawn point while full AI squads are more of a terminators, they can for example react to grenades (try custom game full of AI and try to kill full AI squad with grenade - as long as you don’t hold it long enough so it explodes upon impact it nearly impossible to kill them) but normal game full of human players - their AI doesn’t react to grenades.

But it is true. Just do some experiments in custom and you can see the difference between AI that controls bots in human player squads and squad fully controlled by AI. So from a player’s perspective it seems like that his bots sucks while enemy bots are terminators but on the other had somebody on the enemies side can have the same feeling. It is just the bad wording.

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While they do sometimes do those nanosecond trickflip360shots its still better than what they used to be. For example if the radio was at attic so the bots could not get out own theyr own, next thing you see is how enemy who found the radio location stabs every bot to death while bots were completely incapable to do anything about it.

Well id argue every online FPS game that has to resort in using bots is pretty boring and this game aint exception.
How ever this game fits to my casual games needs, no need to focus at all.