To compensate, they are reloaded much… muuuuch slower and also cycle between rounds slower than their German counterparts… Wich is something I cannot really explain, I don’t think there’s logic here, but at least it’s not unbalanced 
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I’d be very happy if they introduced a ramifications tree progression. Because sidegrades are nice and won’t overwhelm newcomers more.
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looks to be 3.4s on both
Could be havent noticed significant differency
Agree, was just wondering whats the logic behind it.
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In fact, this is realistic. The bolt on the Mosin is famously sticky and crude compared to the Mauser action, which is considered by many to be the best bolt design ever adopted!
Additionally, the stripper clips on the Mosin were rubbish, with cartridges often getting stuck while trying to push them down. It was so bad that many soldiers preferred to load cartridges one at a time, even if they had strippers available.
I haven’t checked in game (I don’t trust the stat pages), but if the Mosin actually reloads at the same speed as the Kar, I’d actually propose slowing it down to better reflect reality.
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Easiy dealt with by 2 x P4’s and the 50mm P3… clearly not any sort of Rusdsian bias in that one…
Mosin is 49-52 rpm, kar98 is 60-66 - both at 1-star.
While the Mauser did have the best bolt design I’ve never heard that the Mosin was particularly troublesome in any way.
And of course from the British “mad minute” we know that soldier training was much more important than any marginal advantages in the weapon anyway - something that Enlisted also doesn’t really do unles you get the perk for firing BA rifles faster.
If I read it correctly they will do this after all 40 campaign levels are available.
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No offense, but if you haven’t heard about the troubles with the Mosin’s bolt, then you simply haven’t put any effort into finding out.
To quote a famous review from TFB: “working the bolt feels like dragging a grand piano across a gravel beach, and the trigger feels the same.”
You’ll find many reviews of the rifle which voice a similar sentiment.
Much easier finding articles that say that complaints about it having a sticky bolt are rubbish - did a google search “mosin bad bolt design” - everything on the front page says ther’s no such problem.
Did you actually go ahead and read any of those links? The sentiment essentially boils down to:
‘Yeah it’s not smooth like a Mauser, and you have to slap it into place every now and then, but it still functions and does the job it was intended for, so rifle is fine.’
Note that I never claimed the rifle doesn’t work, but the fact that it’s bolt is slower to work than a Mauser’s is undisputable. There’s a reason the Mauser action has become the standard for essentially every modern bolt action rifle design.
I read about 6 of them - and in the game the rifle has a significantly lower rate of fire - did you look at the game stats at all before saying that it should have a slower rate of fire??
What you actualy quoted was:
That has a massivly more negative sentiment than “it has a slower rate of fire”.
My comment was about slowing down the RELOAD, due to the IRL stripper clips being troublesome, in part due to the rimmed 54R cartridge.
And I stand by TFB’d statement. It’s obviously being hyperbolic for comedic effect, but the Mosin’s bolt is slower in large part BECAUSE of how clingy it is.
So not a significant differency but differency anyway.
In extreme cold moist nuggets had issues with bolt which cant be alone blamed on bolt design.
Gun grease & Oil and poor maintenance were the biggest issues. It was best to not use any lubricant at all or little as possible paraffin oil.
Triggers of moist nuggets were fairly bad which is why they were replaced on finnish M-28 / M-39 rifles which were just modified moist nuggets.
IMO a 20% difference is plenty significant.
Yes thats about 1s differency in how fast you shoot 5 bullets.
Definitely a massively significant in bolt-action rifle.
Didn’t say massive - said significant - do you always shift the goalposts to suit your argument?
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Merely highlighted what your significant differency means in practice.
No you didn’t “merely” do that at all.
But that’s OK - it’s good to identify the argumentative bankers so I don’t have to bother taking them seriously.
Pretty much did, I didnt disagree with your argument. I was questioning the “significancy” which you stated. If you get butthurt over questioning your arguments like really, well up to you.
20% sounds like alot but when you put it in practise and get the result of 1s differency / 5shots you can figure out the differency aint even significant especiatly as we are speaking of bolt-action rifles.
815ms / 750 ms = Moist nugget projectile is 8% faster
10m range moist nugget deals 6.6% more dmg
100m moist nugget deals 11.4% more dmg
And so on, 11,4% more dmg sounds as percentage quite alot and in practice it means absolutely nothing.
Or if we want to play the statistics game even further we can use the 4 above mentioned stats and come to conclusion the moist nugget is 75% better rifle.
Also…model the damn hull mgs
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