Ah yes, I understand.
But thankfully, you donāt need that weapon on assaulters! Itās seriously great, even in the hands of snipers wich you can add in petty much any squads. Even a single guy armed with this is enough to make carnage (love the thing).
Meanwhile, I conced the ppsh41 is a God tier smg that the beretta with 20 cannot measure withā¦ but itās only great at close to mid range. Risks of casualty is way higher for those guys as they have to get close, and Moscow greatly favour long range and BA (
) play.
Play Moscow! ā¢
The italian MGs in question I believe:
Poor design for a tank MG for sure but it is accurate in game
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Wield the rifle as secondary weapon and you master both long & close range.
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I can never argue against the wisdom of bringing a great firearm such as the Mosin rifle (and itās stock 15 damage!)
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Itās a waste since there wonāt be illimited campaign level if they donāt change how there game work, around 40 and one of the high level of the campaign has an useless weapon, thatās the problem even if we get one day the unscoped version of mkb 42.
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Good bye honey
Go be a wehraboo somewhere else
Yeah the whole linear progression needs an overhaul
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entirely forgot that even soviet rifles has higher base dmg without any logical reason.
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To compensate, they are reloaded muchā¦ muuuuch slower and also cycle between rounds slower than their German counterpartsā¦ Wich is something I cannot really explain, I donāt think thereās logic here, but at least itās not unbalanced 
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Iād be very happy if they introduced a ramifications tree progression. Because sidegrades are nice and wonāt overwhelm newcomers more.
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looks to be 3.4s on both
Could be havent noticed significant differency
Agree, was just wondering whats the logic behind it.
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In fact, this is realistic. The bolt on the Mosin is famously sticky and crude compared to the Mauser action, which is considered by many to be the best bolt design ever adopted!
Additionally, the stripper clips on the Mosin were rubbish, with cartridges often getting stuck while trying to push them down. It was so bad that many soldiers preferred to load cartridges one at a time, even if they had strippers available.
I havenāt checked in game (I donāt trust the stat pages), but if the Mosin actually reloads at the same speed as the Kar, Iād actually propose slowing it down to better reflect reality.
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Easiy dealt with by 2 x P4ās and the 50mm P3ā¦ clearly not any sort of Rusdsian bias in that oneā¦
Mosin is 49-52 rpm, kar98 is 60-66 - both at 1-star.
While the Mauser did have the best bolt design Iāve never heard that the Mosin was particularly troublesome in any way.
And of course from the British āmad minuteā we know that soldier training was much more important than any marginal advantages in the weapon anyway - something that Enlisted also doesnāt really do unles you get the perk for firing BA rifles faster.
If I read it correctly they will do this after all 40 campaign levels are available.
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No offense, but if you havenāt heard about the troubles with the Mosinās bolt, then you simply havenāt put any effort into finding out.
To quote a famous review from TFB: āworking the bolt feels like dragging a grand piano across a gravel beach, and the trigger feels the same.ā
Youāll find many reviews of the rifle which voice a similar sentiment.
Much easier finding articles that say that complaints about it having a sticky bolt are rubbish - did a google search āmosin bad bolt designā - everything on the front page says therās no such problem.
Did you actually go ahead and read any of those links? The sentiment essentially boils down to:
āYeah itās not smooth like a Mauser, and you have to slap it into place every now and then, but it still functions and does the job it was intended for, so rifle is fine.ā
Note that I never claimed the rifle doesnāt work, but the fact that itās bolt is slower to work than a Mauserās is undisputable. Thereās a reason the Mauser action has become the standard for essentially every modern bolt action rifle design.
I read about 6 of them - and in the game the rifle has a significantly lower rate of fire - did you look at the game stats at all before saying that it should have a slower rate of fire??
What you actualy quoted was:
That has a massivly more negative sentiment than āit has a slower rate of fireā.
My comment was about slowing down the RELOAD, due to the IRL stripper clips being troublesome, in part due to the rimmed 54R cartridge.
And I stand by TFBād statement. Itās obviously being hyperbolic for comedic effect, but the Mosinās bolt is slower in large part BECAUSE of how clingy it is.
