For the love of god start punishing people who are more useless than bots. This game feels impossible to play when half of your team is sniper andies with 10 kills, 3 respawns, 0 anything else at 20 or 30 minutes of the game. Bots at least will eventually end up on the cap zone, sometimes. Those deadweights are literally anti-useful.
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soonâŠ
new matchmake.
And how should it help?
Main problem that the developers have created a situation in which team can consists from squads who will not complette main objective - be on a point.
we have 10 players - 2 tankers 2 pilots its 40% of a team that not capable to be on point and we have snipers, mortars and radiooperatorsâŠ
Thats a huge problem.
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yea, too many attackers go snipe or fly planes instead of actually pushing, it creates extremely boring spawn camping matches that last for ever.
They told me I was lying when I said the same exact thing.
Alternative evolution of Invasion
Snipers, long range weapons and these more passive players wouldnt be as detrimental if there was two way attrition (they still wouldnt be preferable though)
It has gotten way worse recently for some reason.
Planes, tanks, mortars, and even snipers have their place. The real problem is the lack of communication tools for players to indicate important actions.
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When important targets need to be taken out, or even when they are taken out, there really isnât a way to let the team know.
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Many players lack situational awareness, and just keep rushing objectives, despite not working with other members to make effective pushes. If there was a way to get people to work together to form waves, it would be far more effective.
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Iâm not saying all snipers are useful, there are only maybe 15-20% that genuinely are. However, those are the ones that help keep things spotted, eliminate high value targets like Flamethrowers and AT guys, take out MG nests, field gun and AA operators, and other snipers. They have their place, it just needs to tie in better through communication and game mechanics.
MAJOR ISSUE
Only PC has the ability to type custom messages. On top of that, there are a lot of players from a lot of different places, speaking a LOT of different languages. So custom callouts donât always work.
They REALLY need to overhaul the system of marking enemies, communication wheel, and interaction via the map. This way you can use communication that ALL players can more easily understand and work together with.
Why we need more eleborate markings when most fightings taking place in average footbal field sized maps ?
What kind of targets we are talking about ? We only have objectives areas
Yeah bcs game literally designed for that. This is not a problem this is how anyone should play to have higher score and what devs intented all along.
Again, why would we need better communication in such narrow maps ?
For both sides these are useful, be able to change the color of markings to denote if friendly or enemy.
- Flanking routes
- Fortified areas
- Unsafe areas/ areas being watched heavily
- More detailed marks to identify what an area is (MG, Sniper, Flametrooper, Mines, etc)
For friendly units,
- ability to request smoke or fire support in an area.
- ability to let team know that you intend to use smoke/ fire support/ grenades/ etc in an area (Even 10 seconds of advanced warning can make a MASSIVE difference, even in small maps)
These and more can make an incredible difference to gameplay, for both offense and defense.
Half the tools for cooperative teamwork and tactical gameplay are already here. That is why engineers exist. COD and Battlefield were designed for mindless push tactics.
Enlisted however was not.
Thatâs what drew me and everyone I play with to this game in the first place.
They just need to add the communication tools, and you will see the game not just get better, but THRIVE once people start figuring out how to properly work together. Even solo players that were getting frustrated due to ineffectively being able to push simply due to numbers or lack of communication can benefit from this.
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Non existent in most maps
Just added to be added, doesnt mean they are really usefull. It creates a false image of âlook we care our game, it has shiny stuffsâ
Correction: even bf and cod has more tactical gameplay aspects than enlisted
I donât know if you are trolling at this point, or just blissfully unaware.
EVERY MAP has flank routes, for both offense and defense.
EVERY ITEM has a use. Some may be more niche than others, but everything is useful in some way, especially when teamwork is involved.
At this point Iâm curious what YOUR definition of âtactical gameplayâ includes. Because COD most definitely is not. Battlefield does on occasion. However, Enlisted has by FAR the most potential for tactical gameplay out of the three.
If you ever find yourself with teammates whoâd rather snipe or sit back instead of playing objectives
Leave and find a better match
Donât waste your time on players who donât wish to win, you canât carry someone who doesnât want to be carried. Until the day comes for a fair and just scoring system, let these selfish players lose
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Quite sure cod has esports that require quite alot of communication & tactical gameplay.
Enlisted has W key.
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Most matches in CoD are a game of reflexes, but when it comes to battles between good players, tactics come into play. It is fun.
Try not to disrespect or abuse other games.
Of course Enlisted is a good game too.
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you can punish them yourself.
Esports perhaps. But how about basic everyday play? Mostly just reactionary shooting. No set team spawn sides. Basically no system of fortification. Its a run-and-gun game.
Enlisted on the other hand has the POTENTIAL to be so much more. To have tactical and strategic gameplay. It just needs the communication tools.
Then a lot of the support players that you donât think are helping would become a WHOLE lot more useful to you.
Depends quite much on gamemode.
Just like csgo, regardless the matchmake is the âcasualâ doesnt mean ppl plays it like a donkey ass.
Well above mentioned csgo is perhaps the most well known tactical fps shooter and I dont recall it having fortnite things either.
Well, no. If this game was released ~10years later with proper AI and other functioning things it could have been the csgo of fortnites who knows.
Now, people got used to casual run & gun fun this game is and definitely aint intrested to see any fortnite additions.
Well I think the easiest and best way is to get proper matchmake that tosses these asshat dragonridersnipermurder666+69+420+acab players to theyr own lobby where they can do what ever the fk they want without disturbing my gameplay.
RATHER than go thru years of work and technically rebuilding entire game to that point that these clowns with 10 sniper kills at the end of game would actually be useful.
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The only solution for such teammates is to desert so they can enjoy their loss than ever.
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But why are the people who actually want to play getting punished with being forced to leave (and all the penalties following that) and not people who literally are griefing? Laying on the ground literally in spawn protection ground doing nothing makes matches boring for both sides.
When attacking either you run alone at MG nests built in the open (somehow the afk sniping morons canât even clean those) until the 2 or 3 people actually playing the game burn through the tickets, which is extremely frustrating.
When defending vs those morons you literally walk up to the grayzone and just kill whatever actually decided to come out or just sit there for 25 minutes waiting for the map to time out. Or you get rolled because sometimes LITERALLY A SINGLE LEFTOVER TROOPER caps your objective, and you look at the minimap and observe all those blue pips firmly unmoving. For several minutes.
People build rallies in camping spots that get everyone spawning on them stuck (or take longer than just spawning on natural spawns), just so that they can get a kill a minute from some top story window
I just want matches where you actually feel like people are at least trying