Additional Squads with Premium is Pay To Win and needs to be reworked or removed

This isnt an argument you will win even if you try.

Your past actions and answers on this forum are against your answers now.

You are nothing more than an hypocrite.

I have nothing more to state. I ill avoid your answers from now on.

Were the squads OP or not? Was nerf needed? If they overnerfed they can buff them again if testing proves they were overnerfed. It is Beta after all.

Calm down guys…

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As said, while yes, I did ask for nerfs, I only asked for nerfs to bring them in line with free squads so they are neither stronger OR weaker. While yes, I initially liked the nerfs, after experiencing them, I can agree they were over-done and the devs should buff them. Instead of getting stuck about me asking for nerfs before, you could also just discuss how we can bring a buff to the devs attention that would bring the squads in line, as I always have asked for.

The biggest difference between you all and me is that I am fine with them being weaker if it was the choice between stronger or weaker. I favor balanced, but would take weaker premium content over stronger premium content.

Nah dude lets just keep crying about how they actually got a nerf and blame the dudes who tried to go for REASONABLE balance changes.

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For further clarification
Squad you grinded for = should be allowed to use whatever you want, you grinded for it, played for it, potentially suffered for it

Squad you pay for = 4 prem dudes, 3 other dudes you can choose from your own troops, having 4 prem dudes is potent, but having ONLY 4 of them makes the squad be utterly worthless compared to any other squad.

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They aren’t balanced if they’re outright worse across the board though, friend.
Mind you the LMG squads can stay as is until the guns get a heavy recoil nerf, the SMG squads can get the extra dudes.

That I agree on, which is why I can agree on a buff to bring them in line.

And I agree with that. Peace.

But, only 2 of them should be armed with MG :smiley:

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No, they were never op to begin with. It’s. Just the mentality of everything that can’t be bought with money a f2p player can’t have

For God sake people are stating a extra squad avaiable it’s an. Huge p2w aspect.

No, the squads were just fine. F2p players can’t die without an excuse I belive

Not that they are useless now. But having more options with them would be great…

What makes me salty. Is people like that guy that changes opinion how he pleases the best for him. Not for the game

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And we come full circle to TCat admitting he’s perfectly fine with premium squads being useless, like he has done in the past and not worth the monetary investment.

If darkflow would stop giving this dude free stuff so he has to pay for it only to be greeted by something useless, would be funny to see his opinion then.

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And in 2 weeks after hypothetical changes to slots that you are asking now, will you complain about too much planes/tanks or mg squads?
Using your own words that more slots is some sort of unfair advantage, how do you think game is going to play out when so many more people will have access to more choices of deployment? Like you keep saying here how your are planning to use it just to put out more MG/SMG squads. Sounds like a freaking cancer to others.

I suspect that what will happen is just less chance to bring your tank. That already clearly happens in Moscow campaign when everyone and their dog spawns their T-60 and gets obliterated by PZIV. I’ve killed dozen of them in one match. Didn’t other team had something better? I know they did, but they could spawn only ones. Same already happens with airplanes in Normandy on German side as spawn is already limited.
Then we are going to see more and more mg/smg because people like you will use extra slots for a single purpose - to abuse this mechanic.

MP41, MG30 and Polish BAR are more powerful than the free weapons. They also had double perk capacity. If the squad had its full strength, they would absolutely be meta. If those three were slightly nerfed (+5-15% recoil), then I would agree. But those three squads specifically would overperform.

IF the choice is between too strong OR too weak. As I said, I prefer balanced. But if the devs only give the choice between OP or UP, then, for me, I choose UP.

This is why I would personally prefer the removal of the slots, but I am fine with extra slots for F2Ps if that is the only solution that satisfies most of the community.

Nah bro. Dude will pay for them for the uniqueness.

But

Wants a buff

So you think that 7 MGs / SMGs in a squad with +35% vitality perk was ballanced?
Or I misunderstood something?

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Considering they still died with one BA shot unless you placed it bad, I never had an issue with them
LMG squads are only OP because of the clear lack of recoil aside from the Chadchat.

No. You are truly right on the vitally perk. I defend that on o a previous post month ago to be changed. But even. That didn’t made the squad op.

Its my opinion. Take it as you wish. Playing with them I would be down after a shot healing my self… Vitality didn’t Change much besides the f2p players rage

Besides they were never 7 MG guys on same squad to begin with

Dont forget the double perk capacity

Except for the starter rifle, 13.5 health is more than 13 damage. Had to rely on them not being on full health. But that wasn’t a prem issue. With the vitality perk nerf, alongside the removal of double perk capacity, they would almost have been balanced (except for the 3 weapons mentioned before)

They were never OP. The only thing that arguably had to be changed was the vitality perk, though even with that I had no problems dropping premium squads left and right with starter rifles.

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I didn’t have too much issue with the carbines aside from the inherent slow bolting speed on the 1907

I don’t mind the perks being swapped out and replaced, I’m just offering my outlook on that whole situation.

I doubt. This perk was always stupid as it basically gave your soldiers 2nd life. No matter if gained by grind or by paying, it shouldn’t exist.

I don’t remember tbh.

They were. The MG30/Chauchat squads had 7 LMGs. Just very few people actually had 7 LMG dudes to fill it up with.