The title. That’s pretty much it. Nothing more from me to add.
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IMHO, the Schwalbe is killed quite well by the Thunderbolt. Give the Soviets some similar aircraft or even the same Thunderbolt and devs can get by with just the Schwalbe and not add any jets other than it.
But you can’t turn the mince back into meat.
The la-7 does a good job with the 262, i found the g-10 better for the su-9 than the k-4
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Even the slower Fiat will make short work of it.
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I remember when I got into BR5 match thanks to a bug with my low BR lineup.
I was literally in the air the whole time with my I-16 and absolutely terrorizing all the enemy aircraft.
I think it would be very effective against jets as well.
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The key issue was never about shooting it down in a dogfight, but about how to stop it from dropping bombs.
P47 or corsair are still so much better CAS than new jets ever will be.
It looks like German players are only complaining about the jets because BR5 matches are no longer just a series of easy wins for them. And they are now experiencing what it’s like to play against experienced players for once.
What a tragedy.
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*allies/Soviets If the state of the Prototype Game is this bad, it’s because of them…
I wouldn’t call them “experienced players.” These are just exploit-happy keyboard monkeys who abuse game mechanics. They can’t even capture the first point and instead endlessly cycle through planes, burning through manpower points while trying to minimize their own misery in a losing game. After all, they spend the entire match in the sky. It feels like we’re back in the era of American kamikaze attacks. Every 30 seconds, two 1000-pound bombs rain down, completely unavoidable. This kind of gameplay is absurd. Even if you win, enduring a match filled with relentless screen blur and deafening explosions leaves you dazed and drained. The thrill of victory feels worse than a defeat. Honestly, you’re better off not playing the game at all.
By the way, this is exactly what makes jet aircraft so terrible. Bad players can use them to shuttle bombs back and forth in no time.
Airfields would thin them out 
Jets just need a turn speed nerf and they’d be fine.
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I dont think turn speed has much to do with people complaining about them. Most of the complaints will be from how quickly they can get to the battlefield and back to re-arm.
The speed and payload keeps going up and up…the map size stays the same.
Its all to do with delaying the frequency of which CAS can be used.
Which is why I have been so adamant for a delay mechanism such as airfields for a long time now
As long as Airspawn is Still a thing, jets really should have their own airspawn… much further back…And thats coming from a plane lover
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I would say that resupply points play a much more important role than spawn.
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Moving them back also makes jets even more desireable because it makes slower planes have a harder time, and speed more desirable
You could just do away with resupply points and just put a Timer of how long it takes to reload. Warthunder Arcade does this. depending on crew skill can take 45 seconds or more to rearm
ofcourse you might start getting strafed alot more if you do that because people will be loitering waiting to reload
How exactly?
Jets would have gotten away regardless. I don’t see any difference.
It’ll just increase the amount of time they’re not over the battlefield (not endangering the attackers) and it will decrease the number of bombs they can get delivered to the battlefield in a certain amount of time.
Only downside would be for a player who plays a pure fighter and doesn’t want to do anything but hunt other planes.
But such approach isn’t much beneficial to his team anyway.
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Asked and answered…because slow is not efficient…You might slow down the frequency of the jets a bit, but you would slow everything else down disproportionately…and with the fast pace of enlisted. only jets would be viable
jets and props need seperate considerations for spawning/rearming
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Well, I thought you want a special more distant spawn point for jets only.
Well, what I meant was that jets should get a special more distant ressupply point as well. Not that it should be a general change for all planes.
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ah…makes more sense
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Well, jets getting back to resupply should be the main selling point.
They should all be about speed, regular fighters should have better turn speed to make them not obsolete tho.