Add Soviet women's units and USA black units

I mean, I’d rather not. I don’t know about the USSR’s women, though I expect inflated records, but the black soldiers weren’t nearly as widespread or active as hollywood makes them out to be

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Remember, that every kill published by soviet propaganda you need cut like about 9/10 of intial number :upside_down_face:

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they are fake as f*ck, wouldnt take it as sorce, even if that part is actually true

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Adding the 442nd as a premium American squad for Normandy would be cool.

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You obviously know more than the people who actually fought there? lol

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IDK, I wouldn’t really trust anything that a soviet says.

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“If you throw enough soldiers at the enemy, they eventually run out of bullets.” - Soviet generals (probably)

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and you fought there smartass? Or just read a book published in soviet union after it was double ,checked" and edited by Glavlit xd?
Moder historians that just like to count dead bodies on both sides, even with accuracy of exact sections of the battle disproved all those mad numbers many times. I belive them more than totalitarian government who had BIG intrest in over exaggerating, how about you xd

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First of all I’m talking about her diaries where she says that when she arrived at the front she wasn’t given any weapon and had to ask for combat duty again and again.
I don’t see any reasons for “bad totalitarian regime” to lie about this?

And if you’re saying the 309 kills she’s credited wih are fake – who disporoved them exactly?
I’d love to read up.

Ever heard of the MiG-25? The Mig-25 was made and revealed by the USSR during the Cold War. It looked like a extremely agile, fast, dangerous plane for the US. This made the US create the f-15 which is still in service. However in 1976 Viktor Belenko stole one and landed it in Japan. It turns out that the MiG-25 was a hunk of junk that the soviets lied about. Unlike their claims, it basically had no maneuverability and couldn’t dogfight like the westerns thought.
Long story short, the soviets were known for lying about everything from their kills to their creations. We can even see this with Russia and Ukraine with Russia lying and making up basically everything.

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I dont see what most people arguments are against female gold soldiers.

We already have MKBs and PZIVF2s, in moscow, federovs in Berlin, gameplay is very fast and arcadey, and with the new matchmaking historical accuracy will be completely removed.

So stop using this dumb argument that it is completely unhistorical, because A. It isnt completely and B. Game has already ditched historical accuracy

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And I just saying that:

EVEN IF:

yeah, creating false picture of war isnt reason at all

Luba Winogradowa

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Most soviet soldiers weren’t given weapons or ammunition so they had to charge forward to get ammo off of dead comrades.

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welllllll, that is bit over exaggerating too. There ussually wernt lacks in weapon, ammo or other equpment on the soviet side itself. It would be if not land lease from allies of corse. But there was just one f BIG problem with logistic.

this intitial cannofother charge from Enemy at The Gates wasnt preafered tactic as some popullar history would depict. Mainly bc it couldn work.

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Ever heard of “history’s largest army invading a country with the ideology of Generalplan Ost, Lebensraum and Untermensch”?
Hmm I wonder why all the casualties…

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Wow that’s the most braindead, sorry I mean Enemy at the Gates, quote I’ve heard.

This is such a myth that it isn’t even worth discussing.

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During the beginning of the war, (when the Germans launched barbororsa) Soviets troops were underequipped, understaffed and overwhelmed.

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true

rather subiective. I mean it was like standard for moust armies

its not suprising when you consider that Adi wanted to conquer east and get peace with west. Western front was neglected by nazi. Untill front got to main german lands of corse. But you need to admit that many of axis loses in east were inflicted directly or indirectly by western eqipment. Just needed to meantion it. Also there were big loses on the sea. Western front just wasnt quite the same as estern. Other way of warfare

Lyuba Vinogradova (born 1973) is a Russian historian. She was born in Moscow and obtained a PhD in microbiology from the Moscow Agricultural Academy. She then turned to the study of foreign languages, and helped Antony Beevor with research for his magnum opus Stalingrad (1995).

Super doubtful credentials as to how much she can know about Luydmila Pavlichenko that others never knew.

The French surrendered and the Brits evacuated lol. No front = no problem.

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