Add similar-to-premium iconic WW2 gear and vehicles to research tree


This car sold 434,943 units in the U.S. last year.
Why can’t I drive this car? :worried:
The answer is because I didn’t buy it. :roll_eyes:

Ron, you can always drive Churchill. :grin:
You just have to pay a few bucks.

Many people will probably support this suggestion.
It is attractive to everyone to have something for free that they would otherwise have to pay for.
Developers should never accept such a suggestion. :neutral_face:

The suggestion here would greatly undermine the appeal of the existing premier squad.
Those who have enough money left over to replace it with toilet paper may not care, but for those who bought it after more than a little hesitation about spending $30 on in-game content, it’s something that makes them want to give the middle finger.
The opinions of those who don’t pay are glaring, but they are opinions that should basically be ignored.

Did I ever say everything needs to be free?
No.

I said most iconic, recognizable and mass-produced things need to be.

While more obscure and small batch stuff can stay as premiums/GO.

Like if you launch a Star Wars game, are you happy to see Darth Vader and Yoda as paid premiums?

That’s a very rotten approach towards the overwhelming majority of the playerbase.

But you are asking for too much.

Is that an appropriate analogy?
It becomes necessary to discuss which tanks are equivalent to Vader and Yoda in this game.
I think the Vader is the Tiger I. The most iconic villain of WW2, it is free.
Yoda would be the representative of the good guys and the strongest Jedi, i.e. the position around M26. It is also free.

The vehicles you are screaming for to be free are at best around here in terms of WW2 symbolism. It is only bought by enthusiasts. imo
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Once in my country, McDonald’s offered free hamburgers for one day. They wanted to show their appreciation to their customers.
However, the free burger was only a regular hamburger and limited to 100 servings per day.
The stupid people who crowded into the McDonald’s restaurant shouted that the Big Mac should be free…
To me your approach seems to be the same as this.
Pay for the burger and eat the burger. The majority of people will.

Huh? Something that barely took part in WW2?

The most iconic allied tank of WW2 is by far T-34, and the strongest one is IS-2.


Churchill? Literally Britain’s no.1 tank.
SdKfz 251? Literally Germany’s no.1 apc.
M3A1? Literally USA’s no.1 apc.

Just look at any game or movie – those things are basic.

I don’t say premiums should not exist but I that doesn’t mean that SIMILAR research tree versions are impossible.

Just look at these once again:

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Tanks like these should be premium








They are unique and rare enough to be good premiums

Normal ww2 tanks like churchill or firefly should never be locked behind premium

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I’m presuming that these iconic weapons are locked behind a paywall on purpose. Weapons and vehicles like these are popular; so there is a demand for them. So people will be more likely to purchase them. Whereas a random prototype firearm that no one has ever heard of, probably wouldn’t get too many sales.

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more Churchills existed and were used than Crusaders

doubles down defending a $60 in-game purchase for the most used British tank in WW2

the tank isn’t even that good

brings up why he doesn’t have a Toyota

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This is not the hill to die on, especially when the Cruiser Mk VIII Challenger, Comet I (A34), and the Centurion prototype existed.

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Everything has a price.
For example, this model kit is $50. If you want to own it, you have to pay $50.
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The game is F2P and their premier squad are a valuable source of income for them. Just like buying a model kit, if you want a vehicle, you have to pay for it.
They have released many iconic vehicles for free, but have made some iconic vehicles available for a fee. They just made that kind of business decision.

This is exactly what I meant.

I bought LVT exactly because I want to make my USMC deck more complete. There is a free APC so if you just want to play the game you don’t need that, but I like US Marines.
It is also a totally legitimate business to generate revenue from users like me and I am happy with that.

However, if they later add a free LVT to the tech tree (even if it has a few less machine guns or is nerfed), my payment will be moot.
If that happens it won’t be fun for me and I will never buy a premier squadron again.

Anyway, they made a decision and put a price on the iconic vehicle. And people have already paid.
Then they should not make it free or create a free version.

There are plenty of other vehicles and weapons to use as premium squads that offer rarity and effectiveness. Normal gear used commonly in WW2 shouldn’t be locked behind a 60-dollar paywall, and you know it.

Instead of being lazy and pretending not to understand English, the devs should do actual research for weapons and vehicles with premium squad potential. You know it’s possible to do so because even an average Joe like me can do it.

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Okay Ron, I’m fine with free versions of those vehicles existing if you insist that much. :roll_eyes:
However, I will not accept a free version that detracts from the appeal of the premiere. :face_with_raised_eyebrow:

Hm i think i agree with others, i look at it like
i have a m18, but if i want the one one with modified gun, that should be premium,
also like the perishing we just got, but if i want the super version, it should be premium, sort of thing

so yeah we should have the base model in TT, and the super cool modified versions etc, should be premiums
just me

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I mean there are literally enough versions of Churchills, Valentines and SdKfz 251s for 4 premiums and 4 research tree versions each.

I am not insisting on that. What I am insisting on is that these common vehicles and weapons should not even be a premium squad in the first place. They should be replaced with weapons and vehicles with actual appeal in gameplay and in rarity, while the stuff that should have been in the tech tree is moved accordingly. Anyone who bought those premium squads removed will receive the replacements for free and have all their ex-premium squad stuff in the tech tree automatically unlocked. Maybe throw in gold compensation as well.

There is more appeal in the Sd.Kfz. 251/21 than in the Sd. Kfz. 251/1. There is more appeal in an LVT with a Ronson flamethrower or two Wasp flamethrowers than in a regular LVT-4. Why? An APC with three 20 mm guns or a flamethrower shooting at 120 yards will always be cooler, more effective, and rarer than with a basic MG42 or 2 M2 .50 cal guns.

But they know all this already, they are just choosing to do this because they think they can punk people like it’s Warthunder. This will not work out, however, because, unlike Warthunder, Enlisted does not have a monopoly on its game genre.

Perhaps dev does not think so.

Precisely. That is why customers are being hustled in Enlisted.

Well, this game is littered with a myriad of greedy microtransactions and silly game paraphernalia based on greed, but I don’t see a problem with Premier Squad.
Their revenues would be considerably reduced if they made everything iconic free.
For most people who expect WW2 games, they won’t care if they don’t get the non iconic weapons.

This part of the discussion will probably stay parallel no matter how much we discuss it.

You do realise that the Churchill and firefly are left over from Normandy when the campaigns were split. Give them time to add them.

The problem with the Premium Squads listed is that they are not premium. They are some of the most common weapons and vehicles used in WW2, just with a $60 price tag. You are actively being scammed if you pay for Premium Squads like these.

Would you pay $25 for an APC with an MG 42 or an APC with three 20 mm cannons?

Would you pay $25 for an APC with two .50 cals and two .30 cals or an APC with two flamethrowers with a range of 120 yards and two .30 cals?

Be honest

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Good point, in this. Case free stug 3A should have Normal Sheel and no mg, premium stug 3A should have heat ammunition and the mg

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