my god their beautiful.
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and the hellcats and coursairs could carry bombs, napalm, and HVARs making them power CAS planes too.
An amazing addition.
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Very true, definitely gonna need those at some point.
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I think we’ll see him in the allinant tree.
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Those are real AT rockets, and the german carry a dozen of them, else you can carry 21cm Panzerblitz too
The 21cm one was exclusively supposed to be used on the HS 132 which means we will never see it as there is no model for one in War Thunder. The 8cm ones might have a HEAT head, but the most that will guarantee is that it will work like a bazooka which while better than the ROS 82s, will still be hard to use because you will need to hit things like ammo, which getting an accurate shot on such things is hard, hence why the ability for every other rocket to onetap any tank by simple contact is so good. The ROS 82s cannot do that, and since the German rockets are also about the same size and have similar explosive payloads, it should be expected that the German rockets would not have that ability either. The ROS 82s also suck at killing infantry, which would mean the German rockets would all also be terrible at killing infantry because a HEAT shell does not make a rocket’s explosive blast larger.
The “exclusively” doesn’t work in this game, since they don’t give a shite about historical accuracy/authenticity
The Panzerblitz has far more pen that shitty soviet rockets, and to wipe the infantry, you have 30mm for that, and still, you have dozen of rockets for spamming, and you can one shot a tank with Ofernor with just post pen in the center of the hull
If you don’t want the Panzerblitz there is always BK 3.7, BK5 and BK 7.5
It works in this case because as a result of that historical fact, no models exist for it in War Thunder and thus cannot be imported over. Also the devs do have a standard for historical accuracy, it is just not one you agree with. There is a difference between the two.
Yes, but pen doesn’t matter when it comes to killing infantry and not every plane with the Panzerblitz, R4Ms or whatever will have 30mms. Furthermore, Ofenor is inconsistent when it comes to damage as it can oneshot jumbos, but it can also only tickle Stuarts so if you want an aircraft rocket like that, I don’t know what to tell you.
Cannon CAS sucks IRL, and this game reflects that rather well, especially for killing tanks. the 40mm Hurricane and it’s counterpart Bf 110 both suck due to bad belts, and the one plane that is even remotely successful at killing tanks the Normandy Bf 110 requires quite a lot of skill to use against tanks, which causes people to complain about it.
You mean the same dev that claim sacrificing Historical Accuracy for the match making? Keep dreaming
You can BS through the fact they are giving soviet post war weapons in WWII, they are using time travel whenever they feels like it, justified with their “balance”(doesn’texist)
BK cannons are AT guns, unlike anything the Allies has, except the stupid devs make the gun carry mixed ammo so you can’t pen tanks consistently
Again no, they always played somewhat fast and loose with historical accuracy, but the rule was if it existed we can add it. So if a single prototype existed during the timeframe of the campaign (and the war as a whole following the merge), then it can be added, hence Jumbo in Normandy, MkB in Moscow, Ofenrohr in Tunisia and RD-44 in Berlin. This has always been the standard and just because you don’t like it does not mean you cannot pretend it does not exist.
Americans were mounting the 75mm cannons with AP rounds to planes since 1942, and the cannon armed Hurricane was explicitly supposed to be used against tanks. The British just realized cannon CAS against tanks was stupid and abandoned the project with any further development of the cannons being placed very low on the list of priorities, and the Americans used such cannons on their planes on ships which was a far more forgiving target than tanks. The Germans and Russians were the only ones who would even try to use cannons on planes against tanks for any real period of time, and to be honest, the Russians were probably more successful at it. So in short no, the Allies do have AT guns mounted to their planes, they just didn’t invest as much in it because it was dumb, or they were Russians and had to make do with what they had.
Furthermore, even if the devs fix the problems with cannons like they did on the Normandy Bf 110, it is still very difficult to kill anything with them because you need a flat angle to prevent ricocheted, which means the 90 degree dive or the treetop glide. Both are terrible to do, and thus no one does it even though it does in theory work.
That’s why you use rockets to kill vehicles and cannon to sweep infantry, german cannons works ingame
Fw190 are armed with Panzerblitz since mid 1944s, there is Hs and Ju with BK cannons, and many planes with 30mms, they are not prototype, or post war weapons
Legit the Soviets are using artificially buffed gun and post war gun in this game, the Fedorov fire lot faster than its IRL gun, and is more controllable than a FG42 despite having no recoil mitigation system firing full size 6.5mm Arisaka ammo, the DHsK fire 850rpm in this game, despite the IRL variant is 600rpm peak for the ground force, the AVT40 has little to no recoil being a SVT40 with selective fire switch…
They can pull random BS out of nowhere and call it “balance” without playtest the shite they just made
But the German Rockets won’t work quite as well to kill vehicles even with the shaped charges due to the tiny explosive mass in them. War thunder somewhat accurately models how the shaped charge worked and things like the RZ.65 and the Panzerblitz are notoriously weak in that game. Seeing as that game is where most vehicle models are pulled, it is safe to assume that the HEAT would still work the same way. Furthermore, none of those rockets will be able to take advantage of the overpressure ability of larger rockets due to their small size. So effectively whatever you do, those rockets will be useless.
Yes, but we were talking about Tunisia weren’t we. Soviets are irrelevant to this conversation.
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Oh yeah irrelevant, just delete any Ally rocket plane in Tunisia if that’s the case is easier that way
Well Beaufighter literally has no other options, and and A-20’s bomb load is even worse than the rocket load. There also isn’t any good alternative for these currently as the devs made mosquito a premium, and the primary American CAS aircraft for this period of time was the A-20 so unless you want to bring in the strategic bombers, this is what we have to work with. In theory you can replace the A-20 with a fighter like some Mustang variant as it was paired with the G55, but I honestly don’t know how you work around the Allied CAS inventory during this time. And before you just say “don’t give it to them”, would it be fair to just simply not give the Germans a Panther in Normandy? If you answer no, then then apply the same logic here, and if you answer yes, I guess you can wait for the merge, coming to a theater near you soon.
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After trying to explain this to other people, this is the best explanation I have seen.