Add one-time-use MTBs for coastal fire support

Hello all. Today I would like to present a future gameplay option that I think would add more depth to the game specifically in maps that have lots of open water/suitable waterways.

My suggestion is simple, add one time use MTBs to the game in specific maps and locations. This is not an unprecedented feature, there are already maps where you can take off in aircraft that are on the runway of an airfield or on a dock.

Implementation: The idea is not that both sides have MTBs present at the same time, I dont see MTB-on-MTB combat being in anyway relevant to the current play style or objective of any mission type on any map. Instead the idea is that either the defending or attacking team would have access to their respective MTB; this would all depend on game balance and the situation. Maybe in some maps it makes more sense for the Attacking team to have an MTB and vice-versa. Every map would pose a different scenario and I would leave this up to the devs to figure out. Obviously the MTB would either have to be within the bounds of the play. Alternatively, the Devs could add Docks in key areas. The MTBs would be waiting to be used once that area of the map is unlocked by advancing in the match.

Under no circumstances am I suggesting that this should be implemented into the research tree as a premium, event or regular squad.

Role: The role of the MTB would be two-fold, as a transport vehicle and as a land attacker against mainly infantry and maybe some light vehicles. Think of them as waterborne APCs.

The following existing Maps I think would be good to see MTBs in(you may notice a pattern):

The Pacific

MTBs:

Type 4 Mod.2
Armament:37mm Type 4 naval cannon with HE and APHE ammo
Type 98 20mm cannon
Crew: 13 (kindof an irrelevant stat, I’m just including it to show that you can bring your whole squad with you)
Armor: 4-8mm(steel)
Top speed: 48km/h foward, 14km/h back.

PTF-7

Armament: x2 20mm Oerlikon cannons
.50cal AN- M2 Browning
40 mm Bofors L/60 Mark 3 gun
Crew: 21
Armor: 15-30mm(wood)
Top speed: 83km/h foward, 27km/h back

Gavutu:
talk about a map perfect for this type of vehicle.

On the South East side of the map the MTB could be sitting, waiting to be manned, in the dock next to the warehouse.
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image On the North East side of the map the MTB could occupy either of the docks, replacing on of the float planes.
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New Georgia:

On the West side of the map there is a dock behind the airfield
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On the East side there are a bunch of floating docks were an MTB could potentially be boarded from.
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Tunisia
(you are now entering fantasy land do not take the following suggestions seriously)
These are a little far-fecthed, I dont imagine an MTB would travel so far in-land for river gunboat duties, however until a Mediterrainean map is added this is the only option to see Axis or Common Wealth MTBs.

That being said, if in the future there are Mediterrainean Maps, like the Seige of Malta for example, these would be my suggestions for MTBs

MTBs:

MAS 561

Armament: x2 12.7mm Breda-SAFAT HMGs
20mm/65 Breda cannon
Crew: 15
Armor: 15-40mm(wood)
Top speed: 80km/h foward, 32km/h back

Armament: x2 Turrets x2 12.7mm Vickers V HMGs
40mm Rolls Royce Semi-automatic cannon.
Crew: 12
Armor: 15-40mm(wood)
Top speed: 74km/h foward, 20km/h back

Gorge:

The terrain of this map would make it very restrictive for MTBs to manouver and the cliff faces in some areas would leave them vulnerable to rocket and grenade attacks from overhead. There is also the historical problem of this scenario almost certainly never happening in this theather of combat, but as I said until DF adds a Mediterrainean map the Axis and Common Wealth may never be represented in this way.

There are some docks at the nort eastern river mouth, however at this time I don’t know if that is even in the play area for any mode, and since the idea is to have these vessels be an organic part of the map it would only work if they were within the play area.
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On the approach to the River Island with the mansion there is a small dock with boats on it.
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Another dock on the west side of the island
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On the south side of said island there is yet another dock.
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Anyone else thought “Main Battle Tank” at first? The frick is an MBT anyways? Looks like a Patrol Torpedo Boat to me

i guess it stand for “mounted turret boat” i guess that the only thing i can think

i will search later

ah they are call motor torpedo boat

M T B not MBT
It stands for Motor Torpedo Boats, but as youll notice none of them have torpedos. The reason is i dont want them to be focused on naval warfare since that wouldnt help anything.

Ah sorry. My retardation must’ve kicked in. Lol

This idea is interesting but changed to Motor gunboats and Sub-chaser boats, which can help more on the ground and rework map or add free slots more for boats and set to br 1-2-3 due to low penetration.
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That goes against the whole idea…

nah, it’s more of a water support combat boat. What you recommend should not be an APC. If you recommend a boat like that, it’s better to use the one I recommend. What you are proposing is useless.

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If you want an APC in the water, I recommend Landing Craft for any faction can spawn tanks, APC and infantry.


All i want is boats with guns on em.

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What I recommend is having gun and it would be better. Because it can help fight tanks, airplanes, and infantry, but not APCs.
Motor Gun Boats - War Thunder Wiki
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But you are recomending having them in the research tree at BR 1 2 and 3. I dont think this would be a good idea. I dont think introducing weird niche vehicle like this into the tech tree would help anything. This is an INFANTRY game, the objectives are on LAND and having a Squad that commits you to the water would be a detriment for your team. I literally just want these boats to be a one time use vehicle that you find on the map, use it, get a nice little kill streak before the enemy blows you up or you abandon it when the battle moves in-land. Admitedly the models that I recommended might be a little OP for the purposes of what they would be implemented for.

If you’ve ever played BR5, you’ll understand.

That’s why I’m proposing this, as ground vehicle APCs are no different. The free version is very slow and only some versions are the fastest, not have in the research tree…

Ground APC Can only be used on level ground. But most levels aren’t designed that way. No one will use it unless they want to die. The reason why APC is not used to fight. Waterways are worse because it is more limited than the floor, it is foods for ATs, tanks and airplanes. Reasons to use landing craft can rush map something like ground apc.

nah That’s why I recommend it. boats with cannons can be more 50mm? not machine gun Have you read the boats I sent?

I recommend landing craft, can deploy tank, apc and infantry. It’s more useful than using a boat gun. Another thing is that there aren’t many waterways. There are very few opportunities to use a boat and add new slots more for boats.

I like the idea of Naval. :smile:
in some form, maybe my idea of a DD parked of Normandy wasn’t a good idea, but would of been fun :stuck_out_tongue: