Fuck airplanes i don’t care, it’s a joke how planes have no effective counter and don’t need to be on their toes and cautious of their environment thus
leading them to maintain total air superiority without anything to otherwise challenge that, the new armored train escort mission is the greatest example of why SPAA needs to be a thing, the AA gun is poo at killing planes plus the fact that it’s such a huge map and that it lacks mobility since the warzone is constantly being on the move and nobody uses fighters planes, my solution ?
Add SPAA to the game, of course for balancing reasons, first, start by only adding vehicles with machine guns and then later adding, ones with cannons or just sticking with mg’s at all !
Of course they would be extremely effective at killing infantry (since they’re basically a mobile armored machine gun nest but x4) and to balance that, they would have very, very thin armor or no armor at all plus them being open-top making the crew vulnerable to gun fire , explosions and fire
Of course, the situation of them being used to kill infantry instead of killing planes is inevitable but we could create ways to incentivize hunting planes in general, making planes give way more xp than what they currently give is one way and we could also reduce the xp gained by killing infantry while using a SPAA they would still get rewarded by killing infantry but not so much if they hunting down planes, this would overall incentivize AA guns, Fighter planes and SPAA of being used to destroy planes
The way they would work is that they would use one of the vehicles slots that each team have, having a separate slot would be too unbalanced imo
Feel free to comment your thoughts and add your ideas to the suggestion, peace! . #planesuperioritynomore #infantrylivesmatter
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fighter planes
i do agree infantry needs better ways to deal with air though
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Best AA right now is bot with bolt-action rifle.
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This
They never expect to get jumped and 99% of players have no clue how to fly defensively
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so true. the amount of times i have gotten a free air kill because the plane i was shooting at didnt bother to even turn while getting shot in the back is astounding
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Or all they know how to do is turn so you can just run their energy down and fuck off to speed up for another pass
Its a shame you fights will never happen high up because some planes like the P-47, Dora, and MiG-3-15 are fantastic high alt fighters.
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The problem is that most players can make a suicide run before a fighter pilot can catch them, and that’s really effective sometimes. Fighters usually make that kill after but by then the damage is done and the point’s lost, maybe the game, so fighters usually end up killing the attacker and then another one will likely spawn very soon.
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agree. this is a issue for AA aswell. suicide bombing is a different issue (since the post is about more AA alternatives), but yes it should be adressed
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In theory you’re right but fighters planes being used to hunt down enemy planes or being used at all is very rare, at least in my games, even if there IS a solution to the issue but nobody uses it thus it creates another issue, of which i already came with a slight solution on the post, incentivizing killing planes as the planes would rewarde bigger xp than what they currently do, this would be a way to give a beneficial purpose for the players that choose to seek and destroy enemy planes, aside from helping your team, of course.
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completely agree. using fighters is kind of a waste of time right now. should atleast get somewhat better xp for taking down enemy planes imo
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Honestly, I think the issue could be partially solved by just giving the AA guns bigger magazine.
The amount of kills I could’ve gotten if I could just lay 3-4 more rounds into the plane is significant.
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The issue with straight up buffing the AA guns is that they are already very effective anti infantry weapons. Any buff to them needs to take into consideration how it impacts their power in that area. Bigger magazine makes the down time where such a gun is vulnerable lower, and thus harder for infantry to counter.
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We all know the particular maps that are going to get plane spammed… on these I spawn Engineers from the off and make the AA gun and sit back with a coffee, especially after the recent Engineer buff to reload them. Just a little bit of awareness and firing slightly ahead of the aiming ‘circle’, it’s bye bye planes. 90 odd percent of the time, your never even bombed!
It is easy, just limit their gun depression.
And then players will use hills and uneven terrain to fire on Infantry anyway.
I shot down planes with my attacker or classic AA. SPAA is never a good thing in infantry oriented game imo.
if u drop the reward for spaa killing infantry to almost nothing and increase exp from planes it would prolly help
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It would still be potent weapon against points. And we already have grey zone tanks to shot into bunkers and get kills for free.
But hey, i dont think it is good idea, but thats just my two cents and my opinion.
fair points. i’m just proposing possible solutions to problems that have been mentioned. i understand it would be powerful against infantry, and there will inevitably be people who would use it for anti-infantry, but i think if spaa were to be implemented it would be much better to incentivize its intended use rather than punish alternate uses.