I think a way these factions could be re-added, without doing harm and splitting the player-base, would be to add them as some sort of “sub-faction”. They would have their own separate research trees, but would still queue under the 4 main factions (Axis, Allies, Soviets and Japan), playing alongside them in the same matches.
While it would lead to situations like Italians/British fighting outside Tunisia maps, that wouldn’t be too much of an issue, especially as the Italians actually did fight in the Eastern Front too, and the British (as well as the “Free French”) alongside the Americans in pretty much all campaigns, including the Pacific (if not specificially at the current maps, but, again, not a dealbreaker).
Think of the possibilities - later on, tech-trees for sub-factions like Hungary, Romania and Finland could be added. This would greatly enrich the game (no other game has this), and allow for lots of potential new content to be added over the years.
Plus it would keep people grinding, as they likely will want to unlock all these new and different faction-specific weapons and vehicles. But, at the same time, there wouldn’t be cause to complain the game is too grindy, as they will still be able to equip and likely already have completed the main faction’s tech-tree weapons, thus not being at a disadvantage. The sub-factions would all be just optional additional content to unlock/try on.
Sorry if others have already suggested something similar.
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No need of sub-factions 
Either add as a separate armies or do not add at all.
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darkflow said NO to this already
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Im not sure why you would want that if they are the same queue.
makes two different factions you would have to grind, one undergeared that would still end up in the same game together
I myself myslef have Multiple Italian and a Commonwealth decks but without filling in the blanks with USA or German Equipment, they would have a hard time. (such as rally vehilces, vehicles in general)
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“… heeeeeEEEEYYYYY GUYS I’M BRIIINNnnngiiing the spaaaawnnn”
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that is exactly how they are to be used!
when I am in charge
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and yet people will keep asking it,because they want fight for other nations too, if at least they give us the damn option of select the country of soldier, hell, I would do, but before you blame me for say “it’s not acurate see italian voices in berlin” (for give one example), they where there as “slaves” in camps, in short explain, same for spanish dudes who fight at north of germany, they have mixed units …
Just because it is one way today doesn’t mean it will never change one day
US and german trees have too much british and italian stuff. Splitting them would make the trees smaller and it wuld add unwanted restrictions.
What bothers me most is probably when my British squads speak American and when I can’t add more Italians to crew my vehicles but have to use Germans instead, messing up my pure builds.
well, you could use a sound mod to make all americans sound british if you dont mind that
Uniforms would still be a problem
then darkflow is immensely retarded for refusing to add what could possibly be a nice new contents for players
It would be too big hassle and increase the grind too much
Doing this lowers the grind by getting Italian and British stuff out of the way so Americans/Germans can get to the American/German things. Also, The British and Italian sub-factions would be small unless Darkflow decides to add a bunch of British and Italian equipment. Either way, players stay winning.
I would say only the faction “main” who Roleplays one nations equipment would be winning for their preference (in the games current state). But in Return they lose alot of what would be their best equipment at each BR.
you split them up, then there are alot of equipment holes in the lineup. (as the game is now)
I have a BR 1 and 2 Deck dedicated to Italy and Commonwealth. After that, I have to fill the holes with USA or German equipment/Squads
Why just fix it for one portion of the playerbase (Mains) when you can effectively do the same thing broad specturm.
Personally I would just Seperate the Nations lines, but Still be under the same Research tree. Then you can focus on being whoever you want.
solves it, doesnt affect queues, mains can be mains, mix matches can mix and match
Never understood why they aren’t separate factions to begin with, if they fight the same battles and have the same queues there wouldn’t be any matchmaking issues.
Now of course Italy could have a lesser chance to fight in Berlin - by adding the invasion of Italy as a campaign, or Brits having lower chance at fighting Japanese - while US would have higher chance. And then finally - by allowing Japan to fight the Soviets the Matchmaker would be a complete circle.
In the end Italian players and German players would still end up in the same matches together, just with a bit of matchmaking magic to make it less severe on maps that don’t make sense.