Add high BR vehicles to the rider class

I do want those things…but when you say high BR…
How high?

it’s SPG it’s inferior to tanks both in speed and armor. It couldn’t do much vs vehicles (unless you had suicidal wish with Stielgranate 42) as was mostly used as anti infantry/bunker crushing support vehicle

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So it would be a cool vehicle for a Rider as it would be even more fragile and less versatile than Dicker Max or Marders. Plus it’s damn huge you will see it from miles away.

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br3 at the very least, while they are basically br1 tanks, they wouldnt adhere to the tank limit of each team

if riders are forever stuck with motorcycles, they will forever be left behind in favor of more potent squads

perhaps jeeps with machine guns could be a good compromise - especially if they allow a larger squad size

it depends how you use them.

just because the W + LMB strat doesn’t always work doesn’t mean it’s bad.

requires a bit of brain and map knowledge.

ideal to flank, secure paras landing zone, place a rally, ambush enemy tanks and much more.

so, no.

but yes, more is always welcome.

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Personally, the rider class IMOP has little value, especially when you can use an APC transporting more soldiers then a motorcycle. They just need to drop the rider class to level one since there is no APC there, and although the value is still small, it’s better then nothing at level one. I would possible use it in level one, especially now since I have nine slots reserved and have trouble finding nine at level one. Take the premium riders, change them to interchangeable weapons and drop the entire class to level one. Those who like them at other levels can just change the weapons. And DF while your at it, change all the other damn premium squads to interchangeable weapons so we who paid for them can use them where we want. :wink:

Good suggests, I always liked the idea of “riders having acces to armored cars” but I don’t know if its good idea to give them vehicles with any offensive capabilities other than MGs

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Nice suggestion! Though not an armoured vehicle I would like to see this SAS armoured jeep in-game. It could work as an APC or Rider II. It would also be a nice sequel to the silenced Sten squad that we have currently.
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If armored cars are high BR only, then they would be effortlessly dealt with by any tank, plane, or AT equipment. However if they were to remain mobile and on the move, they could be effective at suppressing objectives, which I believe would really benefit the rider class

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giving rider class big guns might turn out to be a bad idea since these cannons can still sling HE at enemy.
Besides Im sure no one would be happy (except Axis mains) if Puma was moved to rider class.

I never suggested moving any vehicles to the rider class. Additionally, I did mention that ammo types can be adjusted as Darkflow sees fit, its possible to give them extremely limited HE if that’s a concern

We shouldn’t give the Rider halftrack tank destroyers or other armored vehicles. The vehicle slot covers all vehicle types. Light, medium, heavy, tank destroyer, artillery, AA, etc. Its fine as is for now and the foreseeable future

For now Riders should just have basic cars. It’s a step up from motorcycles. Jeeps, kubelwagens, etc.

No howitzers or medium guns under 50 mm we don’t want mini tanks and sgs or spaa in rider class

Hear hear.

I agree with those that say ‘big gun’ armed APCs/vehicles should be either in the tank class or event/premium.

Riders definitely need to AT LEAST go to .30 cal armed jeeps, kubelwagens and so forth. Id put those at BR II.
Perhaps BR III could be M3 Scout car?

For BR IV/V that Soviet armoured car would be good and that Japanese one. I dont think M15 for Allies. Maybe Humber armoured car or Daimler Dingo?

That’s why I think it’s best to keep things simple and not rock the boat too much

The tank/ vehicle class already has some halftracks, cars, etc

So for now Rider the next step up is regular cars with MGs. That’s fair and everyone can agree on

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for armored car. if we move them to rider class, we can put cannon ones in the high BR, this is my idea:
7.92 one shud be br2(and bike shoud be br1)
12.7mm cars br3
50mm and short 75mm br4
long 75mm br5
if a armored car was realy open and have realy bad armor, it can have lower br.

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I think the only way those vehicles could work is if they either exist to go on flanking runs - build rallies, and then give support fire or abandon the vehicle to attack like a good infantry squad.

Or if those vehicles could get the ability to capture objectives.

I dont know if it would be wise to give them AT guns, but something like a Luchs for example at high BR that is fast and good against infantry that can also capture could be interesting.

Fair argument.

I think that fits with my suggestions like jeep with .30 cal MG BR II and then M3 Scout Car (which had .50 cal) at BR III.

What I will say is I do think we need way more vehicle slots.

APC
Rider
Tank
SPAA

as separate units.

And add more infantry squads that are mechanised but are treated as regular infantry squads. These would have unarmed trucks or halftracks.

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We need to balance infantry and vehicle at least ground , two squads for each vehicle or five for ever ground vehicle with he shells over 50mm