Add an axis and new mechanics to it

The axis refers to: Finland, Romania and Hungary. Whist a new branch for them.Klucheva’s special feature will be that, starting from 1-3, they will play together with the Germans against the Soviets. From 4-5 they will play with the Soviets against the Germans.
In theory, this will help to dilute online. And also attracting lovers of historicity

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Hungary didn’t fight against Germany, not a single Hungarian unit ever fought against Germany in the second world war.
Finland had a brief conflict with Germany but they fought alongside the Axis for most of the war ao they should be Axis in all BRs.
Only romania really switched side and fought against their former allies, they could fit in both Axis and Allies, but making them switch side depending on BR is both problematic and dumb.

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In February 45 a couple of Hungarian units defected to the USSR

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Finland also only fought germans in lapland. Seeing finnish soldiers fighting in berlin with soviets would be horrible

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What about Br1-3 Romania and Finland,-- Br 1-4(or 5) Hungary. or completely make them Br 1-3 Sub Faction or smt

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You can’t make standalone factions from Finland or Hungary, just imagine BR3 Kiraly or Soumi :skull:
Besides these factions would be underpopulated and would just play alongside major factions so it’s clearly stupid to turn them into independent factions.
Subfactions is the way.

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All Hungarian soldiers were taken as prisoners and sent to GULAGs, I don’t know about any Hungarian unit that actually fought on Soviet side.

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Bad idea. Italy / UK / Hungary were independent nations, not puppets.

Either add as a separate armies or do not add at all.

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Hungary absolutely became a puppet state, from 1943 if I remember rightly.

Italy too, became a puppet state after Mussolini was rescued by the Nazis.

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Independent Luxemburg or Tannu Tuva faction when?

Soon as you present a respective tech-tree for them :muscle:

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puppets or no puppets additional standalone faction should always work in the same queue of the main faction, ergo all commonwealth, france nation are going in the same USA queue as all Axis nation in the german one, so as you add sub faction or standalone faction the results would be the same for avoid empty battle and player dispersion, allies always grouped togheter, axis always grouped together

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Depends on the historian.
After Germany learned of the secret negotiations between Hungary and the UK they replaced the PM with a German friendly one and set up permanent garrisons alongside a German overseer but they didn’t have direct control over neither the economy, the army or the government.

Most Hungarian historians are on the opinion that Hungary became a puppet state 1944 after the failed side switching attempt. Horthy the regent was forced into exile and Hungarist party became the governing party and they actually retained all control the previous government had but fully cooperated with Germans.

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So independent factions are nothing more than an ego flex.

just change USA and German name to allies and axis. this should solve this problem imo

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Depends from point of view, for me a fully fleshed Finnish Tech tree, with all Finnish stuff and Finnish squad and some new map, is already sufficient, I don’t care if the queue is the same of german player, split players for map and faction is gonna harm everything in the end, some compromise is necessary

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They don’t have nearly enough guns, not to mention tanks or aircraft.

And? Is a sub faction to German in the end, just put them to BR3 with national stuff, and let them equip Germans gun for higher BR

:point_up:

Just make two big faction with different independent sub tree, so you can share weapons soldier and vehicles between all nation and build your own army

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What “ego” ? :exploding_head:

It is not about “ego” but rather - a hard work of developers, to make a game which is both historically accurate and - at the same time - player friendly.

Not every player is a skilled historian. Some people dont even recognize Hungary as Turkey as real states:

Adding Hungary / Italy / Finland as a subfaction of Germany will only confuse Enlisted player-base.

(they will think that Hungary / Italy / Finland are only a regions of Germany)

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Enlisted is a WW2 game not geography lesson for Americans.

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