So I’ve been looking at the reddit and forums and by Abrams people have the worst idea of what the current balance is in each campaign. So let me tell you the hard facts.
Moscow: Most balanced out of all of them, the Russians have a SLIGHT edge because the ppsh and ppd line is so good but the Germans counter with the MG line and later with STG’s. T-34 is standout powerful but it’s unlocked so late it’s rarely seen.
Normandy: How the hell does anyone think allies are disadvantaged. Literally every ally piece of gear is outright better, unlocked early, and there is an abundance of premium ally players because of it. Yes the JU-188 is good, but you know what’s better? The a20. HVAR is insane, and if you think the tiger (which is unlocked too late to matter) is overpowered, just know it’s easily destroyed by the first plane that gets unlocked by the allies, the p-38.
Berlin: Ally sided by a bit, the playerbase I think is more dedicated to axis but all of the early gear and tanks are better for the allies. However, their tanks are not immortal due to the overwhelming presence of panzerfaust.
Tunisia: In a very strange state, the allies have more and usually better players but the Italian gear outclasses them at every level. The Italian semi-auto far outperforms the m1 carbine and even the garand , the m1 carbine sucks so much that the allies don’t even get to have a semi-auto until level 25 with the garand. Italian fighters all outperform ally fighters in movement (not in firepower), the m14 tank is capable of fighting every ally tank while the allies don’t have a tank capable of fighting even the Italian armored car until the grant, and their early submachine guns are far better than the early allies, balancing out when the allies get thompsons.
Stalingrad: nobody plays this it’s pve.
Pacific: The ally tanks are very good, verses the insanely bad Japanese tanks. The weapons are pretty balanced, ally planes are better, it’s an actual joke that the buffalo is unlocked at the same level as the a5m4, but the Japanese AT rifle is so good it kinda compensates for vehicle difference. I’ve have plenty of Japanese sided games though, I think it’s known that the allies have so many advantages that most good players actually play Japanese.
and it gets destroyed by the first german plane - Bf-110 G-2.
also, Bf-110 G-2 can destroy tanks TOO, with its 37mm and 30mm cannons, infantry is also vulnerable, let alone allied planes.
and also… you don’t care about Thompson vs STG, do you?
lol what
try to destroy at least Mk.I Grant using it.
it will obliterate you before you even shoot.
Lanchester?
why don’t you mention Beaufighter?
A-20 with 12xM8 Bazooka? ok
Axis in Tunisia as well as Pacific Axis wins a lot only because of the reinforcements balance (for instance: Tunisia Axis squad costs 12 reinforcement points per spawn, Tunisia Allies squad costs 17 per spawn, Axis gets more point for cap, Allies get less and etc.)
if you think HVARs are insane then you should see the 21cm waffengranates, they are objectively better than HVARs if you compare them 1 on 1 but the 4 on the 110g-2 is the same power as the 10 hvars on the p-47.
also funny how you skip things like the FG42, which if you think the fed is OP in berlin keep in mind it’s a similar situation between m2c and FG in normandy, FG42II scoped, panzerschreck and faust being miles better than any of the Allied AT weapon, axis’s early advantage in SMGs. oh here is a fun fact: the axis’s bombing run is 100 kilo while the allies is 50 kilo (100 pounders) so yeah pretty much axis does rule on all fronts
This is what I mean by people have no idea what the actual state of balance is…
Tardguardlord: Glad you like stalingrad most people don’t.
Petr_likhanov: The A20 is better, not by much but better. Forward facing 50 cals, much tankier, better bombs at the cost of having 2 less. The bf-110 and p-38 are not different enough in dogfighting capability to matter, and the BF-110 cannons are not capable of penning a sherman much less a jumbo, same goes for the rocket. The Stg is better than the thompson, but unlocked too late to matter. A better argument would be the M3 sucks, which you’re right. And yes, the m14 can go toe to toe with the grant, and does not get reliably one shotted by the grant, really neither one shots each other. It’s an almost even fight, a little bit grant favored. I do mention the axis fighters are better at dogfighting, and while the beaufighter is strong, it is unlocked late and only a little bit stronger than its counterpart. The fact that axis get’s more spawn points than allies (and a faster cap time) is insane to me because of the better axis gear.
Vaugn Brute@live: Yes I believe moscow is the most balanced. Both Russian and German weapons in the campaign are good. but Russians do edge out in a couple of places. Example: they get a semi auto sniper earlier, but snipers are not a game changer at all. Russians also can abuse a gold order for an early unlocked t-50. This is where the major differences stop though.
Rickyd123: Yes, HVAR is much better than german rockets, and I would take the penetrating power of the m8 rocket over the bf-110 any day. The FG42 is very good, but not a god weapon. And once again, you have to take late unlocks with a grain of salt. Expect most players to be around level 10, with experienced players being around level 20, with a hard wall of grind stopping most from getting about 24~25. That being said the AT weapons in Normandy are just useless in general save for the PIAT vs any non tiger/panther tank. The axis weapons not bad in themselves but struggle against the jumbo.
i mean the m2c only recently got a deserved buffed, they made it so your sights don’t fling into your face, and honestly i’ve done better with the PT than the 1919 though that might because of my playstyle
Have you heard of the tragedy of beretta m38 with 20 ammo magazine?
I thought not. It’s not a story Soviet mains would tell you.
It’s a multiple faction enjoyer legend.
You probably forgot about AVS as well.
And Fedorov.
And dt29 with which you can unload the mgazine in one go while staying on target…
Or the 100kg bombing runs vs 50kg bomblets ones.
What I think you’re overlooking for “Balance” is power creep. Campaigns like Normandy and Moscow suffer from imbalance because the power creep is so severe.
Comparable titles like War Thunder Balance by placing everything into a ranking system 1.0-11.0 nothing will ever see anything ranking 1.0 higher or lower than it’s own number.
Enlisted does not have these features. Moscow is a perfect example how is a new player in a PZ II C or anything up intil Lvl 29 Pz III J going to compete with a higher level player using a T34. They’re not going to that’s how, I’ve seen you throw around the phrase “unlocked too late to matter” like what the hell does that even mean??? I’ve already got access to all the higher lvl equipment and it becomes incredibly difficult for new players to even compete when I can throw on max level Tank squads and 3+ assaulter squads that absolutely decimates everything they have access to at lower levels.
???
they BOTH have 250kg bombs, but Ju has 6 of them, and A-20 4 of them…
50cals? cool, but Ju has one-shot turrets with 20mm cannons.
20mm > .50cals
20mm can one-shot anything on 6 o’clock.
even if front Ju has 13mm turrets…
they can…
i did that…
my friends did that…
i was destroyed such way…
MP 43/1? MP 40?
and you think that Thompson with literally unusable gunsight is better?
so… RP-3 are just a little bit stronger than 250kg bomb?
ok…
There is no reason to use the beretta when you can use the mp40. In addition, you the Russians don’t really upgrade from smg to smg consider how similar the ppsh line is. That being said, Russian smg’s are better in my opinion. But you can’t say any Russian lmg beats the MG line, the same as the ppsh is an smg menace the mg42 (mg34 in moscow) is a lmg menace.
The AVS does not outperform the zh-29 enough to make a major impact in the campaign. I do however acknowledge the stronger side is soviets without a doubt, just not enough to swing games based off the power of one side alone.
21cm can go through the jumbos armor while having much more explosive power than both HVAR and m8s so again 4 21cm rockets are the same as 10 HVARs thus making 21cm a better rocket
“late” yeah it’s as late as the jumbo so both are mid game unlocks with late game being around lvl 30 (FG is a lvl 23 unlock) also it’s not just a good weapon it’s a fantastic weapon that can fill any situation needed
A) they don’t
B) AT launchers are incredible useful for every campaign that has them
right…i have no idea what the actual state of balance of normandy is despite putting over 400 games on both sides with axis having a +30 game lead over the allies
Ok update, I tested the bf-110 in practice and it destroys the jumbo easily. I admit I was wrong on normandy air power, it did not do that before. That said, with both having similar tank striking capability early, I think the allies still edge out axis on planes. HVAR is the huge difference maker.
