⭐ About the new progression and matchmaking

As long as we can make a line up of squads we want to take into battle, I’m all in. I’m not sure if this would be possible, but it would be cool to have the G41 sniper squad combined with the TZ.45 squad, or the Colt Monitor squad with the AU Sten squad, for example.

Since I have a considerable amount of premium squads, I would not want to be forced into a battle where I can not use those said squads, premium or main tech tree squads.

I did perfectly fine as an absolute newbie, frequently ranking top 3, with basically nothing but Gewehr 33/40 in Battle of Moscow…

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So after reading the whole post i want to give my take on it.

A progression rework is necessary in my eyes, since we dont have enough players to fill 12 sides at the moment with more campaigns coming in the future.

So how should the system work.
We should use a nation based system so you only need to unlock the MP 40 one time not 5 times, the same for other factions (Lets unlock the PPS for the 20x time in 5 years when we are getting the 30 batte of somewhere with the same stuff we need to unlock again just to play the new maps)
I can understand the concerns of people how want to have time fitting equipment to the maps and i think the best way is twofold.
First give people the option to block theaters for example: I want to play Germans but not on Stalingrad maps so I can block them and only could get Moscow or Berlin Maps.
Second: Timeframe Lock: This could work like others have postet already, If i equip a King Tiger or IS 2 i can only play on late war maps.
If we get enough players there should be 2 queues arcade and histrorical, arcade without timeframe limits (King tiger in Moscow possible) for players that just want to play and have more options for maps, but without extremes no USSR against Japan in Normandy.
Historical with timeframe lock so no king tiger in moscow for players how want a more realistic WWII feeling.

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Overpowered T-34-76 (using War Thunder 2014 modelling) can beat panther G ez

do you know what is difference between now and with equipment based MM. now you are destroying new players with stg44, fedorov, is2 and tigers while they are having springfields, mosins, pz2 and t60. at least with equipment based MM you will have same level equipment and they will stand a chance against you.

and when was that? at start of the game when everyone else was a newbie, or when when moscow turned into soviet bot farm? axis moscow was full of bots till recently, so making it to top 3 is not that hard of achievement. tell me more about your WR in moscow at beginning, more relevant stat than your individual performance in bot filled side of moscow campaign.
i was frequently first in allies normandy when i grinded it, but still had 50% WR cause team was full of console players, newbies and bots vs mostly veteran pc axis players with end game equipment.

and which chute did he use? t4? t5? t7? t10? mc1-1? or mc-6?
t5 and t7 were used in ww2 were non steerable parachutes. you could marginally steer them to avoid collision by grabbing risers, but it was emergency maneuver and not a way to steer the parachute.

This is exactly where it’s headed

Whey they hell in a WW2 shooter if not care aboit history? go play something else, don’t ruin this game with your no cluess retard arguements

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Btw looking at post and screen of new UI, it looks goddamn TERRIBLE! It looks shit tbh.
plain, genereic, no historical feeling athmosphere to it, don’t like it at all

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Says the guy who ignores my points and goes straight to insulting. Great argument :ok_hand:

No one said I didnt care about the historical aspects, simply pointed out that most people dont get a hard on for it like on the forums (which in itself is a minority of the general player base.) They simply like the WW2 theme and atmosphere. They dont care that this weapon or vehicle may or may not have been in this or that campaign or time period.

How about you reign in your emotions and try again.

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This is a battle from Berlin that I just played with stock squads. Yes I could not compete with the Ppsh41 at close range, yes I had not much power to carry. But I got a decent battle with decent kill count despite the fact that I needed some minutes to acclimate to the gear.
(And I didnt even use the tank)

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It’s just a rough concept that was made to show you principle of new mechanics
⭐ About the new progression and matchmaking - #92 by 1942786

I see myself quitting this Game. It will turn into cesspool of degenerate casuals who will even further help to ruin the game for me. All I care about here is play that Battle of Moscow with the squads, weapons and vehicles they had, feeling llike having a go at history myself and see how I fare if i was there, with what weapons and vehicles they had, facing of against enemies they did.

You now as developers want to break completely the historical context of the game and the immersion of history for the sake of catering to the generic masses of casuals who care for nothing about history, all for the sake of having more players attracted to game, so you make more money. well good for you.

I see now this game will turn into copy of War Thunder model, meaning we end up Japanese in Normandy facing off against Soviets. King Tigers in Moscow and T-26 in Pacific.

Everything with campaigns gone and just a pool with Maps. and matchmaking based on Battle rating you guys made up, based on some bullshit, not caring for what faced each other and what meant for.

WHY? why you ruin the gmae all of sudden? All this time playing this game, all time invested and money. Being promised and shown a game that is about history.

I quit War Thunder because it turn into exactly this no sense history out the window bullshit.
Couldn’t tkae it no more, after spending thousands of hours and and euros on it, I still have it there, hoping one day game will turn good.
Now I see myself leaving this game for same reason.

Once you stop caring historical accuraccy and the hisorical immersion, and start catering to casual attract more players for the sake of you want to grow the game to make more money, it’s over.
since then more new scrubs who care for nothing comes, and more and more pople affect the game into even more care for nothing, until cesspool of degenerate shit.

I REALLY hope to god this will be changed and thought about again, tweaked and fixed and turned around and you will see another way to increase player pool and separation of players becasuse different campaings without breaking the whole goddamn game in doing so.
Good Luck

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Then they still shouldn’t tailor the game to those people. Mindless people of no culture shoud have to follow suit. You can not let idiot who care for nothing dictate where is going.
They should make an effort to make game more historical immersive AND better in terms of gameplay and player pool/matchmaking.

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after reading your post i hear all your ideas and thoughts are better kept in garbage can.
Some mindless casual who cares for nothing and ain’t know what’s best for him, not to mention others.
not care for history… goddamn what the HELL are you even doing in this game? go play something else and where no one cares, don’t try ruin and break this game.
Shit and eat somewhere else please

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right worse than it

So does that mean that we will see tanks in campaigns where they were not used? For example Tiger II in Battle for Moscow? If so, then it doesn’t make sense and it’s just a bad decision for the future of the game, at least that is what I think.

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Idea is to bind maps to faction, so as long as you play UDSSR you will play on Moskow, Stalingrad or Berlin maps.
Yes Tiger 2 vs IS2 in in moskow will be possible.

The question is how often will it happen. The matchmaker will try to put players with comparable equipment together, maybe the choice of map will be influenced to.
If you use late war stuff you will play mostly berlin and only be put into Moskow when there are to few players.

I still think they should prevent that and focus on historical accuracy

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Another MMO game going to be more shallow and plain general due to population problems and faction unbalance. Looks I’m a masochist so many other games and Im always in the games which end like warhammer online and swtor :slight_smile: No, I dont like this change, many people will not accept tigers/is2 in Moscow, if they are in minority or majority looks we will find out soon :frowning:

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