⭐ About the new progression and matchmaking

People who like fantasy WW2 with mish mash of everything should be sent to customs.

Historically accurate (as much as possible) games should be the new norm.

That means Moscow maps should never see anything stronger than T-28 vs Pz IV F1 from now on.

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Why? Do you have any statistics? Or you are capable of supporting all dev team, so they’ll make the game gust for you?

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Exactly. They can finally disable M2 carbine, Jumbo and Panther (for balance) for Normandy maps but make them available for Ardennes* maps.

Similarly, disable Mkb and Pz IV F2 for Moscow and introduce them for Bagration maps or something.
T-50 as nd T-34 can be locked for Moscow balance just as well but appear on other appropriate maps.

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no.

the other way around because the ones that ask for historical accuracy are a minority around everyone that play on normal queue.

i do respect your opinion. and the need for a historical accurate game. but, still a minority. so the ones like me that dont care much about a jumbo on the normandy landings, will still play the game as is, coz , most of us dont give less of a shit about that.
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Why not? Keo said customs will get good support.

Keep the base game normal and put all the deviations to customs.

They are proposing exactly the same thing now but in reverse.

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How about if I liked having different campaigns to play, as in today I would like to be Russians fighting back the german onslaught in Moscow, tomorrow I very much feel like giving the british a hard time as german africa korps. You read a history book or see a series or whatever, it’s all split into the different campaigns battles etc, based on that it was an important time where the armies and weapons were at this strength and technology, in this case these squads, weapons and vehicles fighting it out at that campaings or battle. This is what Atleast I want to relive. this bullshit with like War Thunder all stuff from all over fighting it out based on some hypothethical matchmaking you guys made up is to ABSOLUTELY NO interest to me. I read about Battle of Stalingrad, then I watch a documentary about Stalingrad, go Enlisted and play Battle for Stalingrad and feel like I’m there. This change you intend for I see exactly what you trying at, but I can see the result already, just plain quick mathc who cares, no immersion, no attachment to squads and no historical feeling at all.

You miss the point of wanting to play a ww2 shooter, I want to have a go at taking moscow as the german army 1941 with what squads, weapons and vehicles they had, and that’s it.

This will be make Game feel like some time traveling bunch of squads that gear up and get sent some time who knows, there’s no immersion there no connection to history, more sounds like a crappy us hollywood netflix garbage series.

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@Veekay45
Neither of you have any data on that so I’d say call it a draw and shake your hands.

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the data i have is all the social media forum discord youtube comments (etc) complains and ingame gear used by players.

enough to make a point

We can always have simple solution - make maps that arent connected to real places.

And I don’t think that researching mp40 5 time is normal, as well as 5 ppsh squad (in moscow) is historically accurate.

i never found that to be an issue tho

for me personaly ofc.

I’d strongly disagree on that.

Please don’t equal blissful ignorance (ie kids being happy with “Sherman shoot Panzer on D-day haha”) with preference for fantasy.

I’m rather convinced people come to WW2 games for WW2 first and foremost, and everything extra can go to extras. (Especially since advanced support is promised, all the power to the mixed salad lobbies :wink:)

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We have ww2 guns and maps, we’ll have ww2 guns and maps, whats the problem?

i mean not really ignorance.

i just state what i see most people using ingame for around 5000 batles now, + all the streams youtubes and pics i see on social medias around the game and do a ratio for the number of people i see asking for “historical accuracy”.

if we are the ones on the minority, said items you complain wouldnt be an issue for you to begin with. but we , are not.

so yes, hopefully customs will be good enough one day so people cna set a historical accurate match and have fun roleplaying such. i respect that. but isnt, what the masses are after (in my humble opinion)

Stg in moscow is not ww2. It’s fantasy.

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Maybe because most players are playing close to meta?
Just a guess.

Also if they don’t care about historical accuracy, it doesn’t hurt them if it’s present as they don’t care.

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a more than viable guess .
ofc most goes around that.

but people that do meta, want more. more and better.
not less … (i personaly think ofc)

since t50, jumbo, m24 chaffee , springfield, m3a1 , m2 carbine (etc) are already a thing and dont hurt once the ww2 feeling, i dont bother.

even if they aint meta (like the chaffee) its lots of fun to play with. and the game, befor everything, should be fun

specialy for a casual game.

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Let’s have R3 T20 in Moscow too, why not

Computer game in 2023 is not a WW2, its a computer game.
Your goal is to capture round points, I dont remember that in ww2.

Why not?
Wait, it isnt ww2.

Inforcing historical accuracy doesn’t hurt anyone though. If all campaings are being combined into faction based queues, and they add loadout seperations for each campaign, then you can still get to use your insert whatever here, just only when you are thrown into a match that would make sense for you to have it.

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