I see a lot of people talking about desertion, and about punishing deserters, but no one talks about the reasons for so many deserters, if they really want to get rid of deserters we should talk about the root of this problem, which is the lack of choice of map and game mode, It is not very rare that we enter the same map and the same game mode infinite times in a row, and in this case desertion is completely justifiable, unlike someone who abandons the match because the team is doing badly, punishing the player with five minutes of waiting in the lobby (war thunder) for giving up on a match that takes place on a map and in a game mode that he has just played for 3 times in a row would not solve the problem, because many would choose to wait five minutes in the lobby instead of playing this match once again, I would be completely in favor of punishing deserters if we can choose the map and the game mode, in this case the penalty for desertion would be justified since the player chose all the criteria of the match and would have no justification for deserting
I do agree that the algorithm or whatever that chooses map and gamemode needs to be better. More random. Less same 3+ matches in a row. Iâll handle a Conquest match no issue. Getting them several times in a row is exhausting
Given that happens, then people shouldnât have any reason to desert other than match surfing to try and find an easy stomp. Make them pay for being the scum they are
I agree and have said so in every topic about desertion.
Fix the games problems not punish/penalise for people voting with their feet when BR, MM, Map choice, mode choice, Attack/ Defense rotation are all a mess.
If you want to play a specific map or game mode then you can create a custom game with the map and game mode you want.
Custom games are also perfect for people who say they are just playing âfor entertainmentâ to justify why they desert games once they come up against more skilled players then they are.
I think if you could pick maps in regular matchmaking, you would see a lot of people playing as specific maps and factions like Germany on D-Day, but not as the USA/British cause its easier to play as defenders and do things like camp in a tank and HE spam the beaches and points.
Some maps could be less favored, not because they are bad maps, but because people cannot use exploits on them as much as some other maps.
It still shocks me people double down or even try to justify why they desert games. Every attempt to justify their shameful behavior really just comes down to them being a bad player and not respecting the basic obligations of entering a team game. If you donât like a map its probably because you desert every time that map comes up so you do not learn how to play it. That is legit being a bad player, accept you are a bad player and do not try and justify your choice to desert using any other silly arguments. Same goes with different game modes.
It just takes a slight bit of effort to learn how to play the different game modes instead of being intimidated by a different mode cause you canât greyzone camp and spam HE, or snipe from the one spot you like in the one map you like.
Deserting makes one personâs personal problem into a problem for everyone else playing the game. Every discussion about this goes round and round because you just cannot get through to some people who think because they can come up for lame excuses to justify their shameful behavior, they are in the right to continue being bad players and creating a more toxic community for everyone who actually wants to play the game when they hit the âPlayâ button.
So you mean to say that if a player deserts a match because he has played the same map for 4 consecutive times even though he has won in every match, he is a bad player who just wants to kill easily??? and in fact the problem is not the current way in which the steps are selected??? and then the player should play ââentertainmentââ games???
The truth is that it is tiring that I touch the same map over and over again. That makes me go out and change the country because I have a community of Spanish speakers of more than 100 people and it is the most talked about topic.
You want to talk about the root causes? Donât forget to mention how many people quit out of DEFENSE games.
I see an average of 1-2 at the very start of the game and usually a total average of 3-4 by the end of the game.
Meanwhile, I rarely see people quitting out of OFFENSE games.
I played with the Germans again two days ago, and out of every 10 matches 7 or 8 are defense, and the desertion rate is very high, I think this is extremely bad for the game, but I think itâs a completely understandable attitude from the players, especially from the Germans who desert matches after having played five consecutive rounds as defenders, and most likely having lost all of them, since currently the developers set a gameplay that does not give the defenders the slightest chance, I think that precisely this type of problem will end enlisted, as this type of problem harms other factions, such as the Americans, for example, the reason I stopped playing with the Americans recently was because the matches are extremely short with some lasting less than five minutes, as predominantly the Americans they play as an attacker, and the Germans predominantly play as defenders, and this current crisis of desertion, more prevalent in the German faction, is harming the other factions, in the case of the Americans (and perhaps the Soviets) playing against a faction that does not offer any type of resistance. Due to a high level of desertion, it harms everyone, as there will be very short matches and very low scores, as there will be very few enemies to fight
I absolutely agree with you. It is unthinkable that a game of these characteristics does not have a game mode selection and map selection.
And much more considering that they want to launch the game on Steam. I personally hate playing conquest mode, every time I play that mode, I automatically exit the game, and the train in Berlin mode, too.
They should add the mentioned game selections NOW.