Due to an update, the hit accuracy of all LMGs while moving has been degraded.
Unlike the MG34 and Bren Gun, the BAR and Chauchat are designed to be fired while moving, so these LMGs should be less or no longer affected by the degradation of accuracy when moving.
BAR is technically not even a MG but a battle rifle.
Just cause the Army categorized it as one doesnt mean we should put it on the same level with MGs. I mean it was even designed for the purpose of walking fire.
I believe chauchat can be consider to be an automatic rifle too but yeah giving them a unique ability could be cool
I honestly dont care much about the French gun (after all it is a premium gun for the SU and I dont own it he (but ofc it still should get a realistic buff)) while the US is almost dependet on BARs (and total they have three versions of it).
The bar was not known to be a recoilness and precise rifle, this is why they have bipod too. You are not supposed to shoot automatically and have a good precision at the same time… You can still shoot with burst of 4 bullets and there is even a lower rpm mod for that, they don’t made this for nothing lol.
And the chauchat was literally a garbage french weapon of the WW1
Currently, whether you’re firing single shots or full-auto shots, if the player moves even a little, the bullets will scatter.
Also, the BAR boasts high accuracy only in semi-automatic fire.
Ofc there are differences between watching and firing and they didnt fire while moving but I dont think it is more uncontrollable than the German MMgs especially since you have to hold the ammunition-chain on the (German) MMGs to prevent malfunctions.
And bursts are not uncommon as it prevents malfunctions and is easier to handle (recoil and accuracy).
Watch the first video at 9:20 and you will see he his shooting while walking slowly and still.
Whatever the weapon, from a lil pistol to a giant hmg, NONE is supposed to be ACCURATE while moving/running. You will always have that lil “wobbly” effect doing so. Unless you walk very slowly? (But in game movements are either jog, or sprint.)
However!
What could be done for the very versatile Bar is to restore the original quick “aim thro the sight” speed that lmgs had prior to the nerf. Would make the Bar more useful without attracting the attention of ppl screaming " muuuuh gun now op"
As a side note, Iove Hickok 45’s channel.
Yeah but it was less ADS than freazy hipfire mode.
This is a good idea
Let me introduce:
(I know that we are talking about BAR and stuff but I’m an MG34 and MG42 fanatic so there is nothing you can do.)
Kurwa I guess.
Never saw anyone using this bucket.
Really? It’s on 1/3 of the pictures containing german MGs.
i feel like the MG nerf was needed, ( especially since I mostly play with MG squads myself)
just the thought that a gun that has 50 rounds in a mag can kill just as good with just one bullet than a “bolt action”… yea no one needs to think hard to see the balance problem.
Then again, one could also argue that when your iron sights are on target, you should hit the target. Its just difficult to balance the weight of the gun into a video game.
I like the direction this accuracy nerf was going to, but maybe something else could be done to make this nerf “feel” better without buffing the weapons again.
Also yea the BAR should be basically just as effective as the FG42, AND both guns should be the same class of guns.
Yea yea… sure thing the BAR was SUUUPER heavy compared to the FG42, still… automatic rifles with 20 round magazines… from a “gameplay” perspective those guns should be very comparable.
what if it took stamina to shoulder-aim the BAR but at a fairly slow rate? also it could make the user a bitr slower
IMO it is not about moving or not - you simply cannot properly control a full caliber automatic weapon without some form of bracing or support.
If they had shoulder slings for walking fire (noticed no-one ever mentions RUNNING fire!) then it could be accurate enough for suppression - but even then the ChCh and BAR would only use low rates of fire - even semi-auto.
This video is about the AVS-36 - he gets to fire a couple of mags full auto from the shoulder, braced - completely useless for accurate shooting:
well here is what i “dont like” about the mg nerf, the “battlefield like bullet spread”
now dont get me wrong, i still think the nerf is “good balance”, but i personally would prefer something like greater “visual recoil” compared to aiming down your sights, but your bullets go all over the place.
I absolutely agree with you that aiming down your sights with something like an MG42 and hitting anything past 20 meters would basically be worse than just “not effective”, its just… i dont know man, im just not a big fan of RNG bullet spread.