About an AVS for 25 rounds

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Kattonen Toivo Matveyevich

During the Finnish war, we cut down fir branches all the time, made huts like this, with a bonfire in the middle - that’s the kind of life. It’s 50 degrees below zero, and there’s a meter of snow. Skis and a machine gun, and a machine gun with a 16.5 kg disc. A duffel bag is an addition to this. The second number carried two discs with cartridges, and the third already carries three discs. They carried them in special green boxes with a handle. He got hurt too, and all of us machine gunners got hurt. They also carried all the ammunition with them. There was no shortage of ammunition. Of course, we had to save bullets, shoot in short bursts, and we could release the disc in one burst. There have never been any problems with a machine gun, the machine gun is trouble-free. I wasn’t afraid of water, and I wasn’t afraid of snow. He was my best friend in that war. And there were self-loading rifles for 25 rounds, probably, they refused. As soon as it snowed, that’s it.

(So, we have an evidence - 25 rounds AVS was at front since 1939 year.)
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This one with 25 rounds magazine


And here it its the right one for 25 rounds

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So what? I don’t think anyone doubted its existence.

But the last thing we need is yet another clearly powercreep copy paste variant of already in game present SF rifle.

So I really appreciate this is not suggestion, just a mess room.

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It’s not the same weapon. Early version have some big differences in a specs and visual though

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You can see directly at photo - its a different weapon then AVS-36

if only as an event squad or as an event weapon

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I dont think the big problem is the fact if it existed or not but if it is needed / balanced.

There is a lot of equipment that did exist but would not fit use ingame.

The 250 round Mg 42 certainly did exist but it would not make sence to be added just like the Jagdtiger would not fit.

Also 25 round SF rifles are in an odd position which could only carry 50 or 75 rounds total but not the usual 60 rounds so eigther it would be 10 rounds short or for no reason have 15 rounds extra.

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We even have an MG81 with 1800 rof. I am actually think - add of this weapon only gives a bit option to choose between AVT with better accuracy and AVS with better rof.

Now we have an evidence it was at front, so why not. If even a paper guns added as well - AVS early could be a weapon that cause me to return in game

Right, so since when can we equip a full 9 man squad with those? I must have missed the update for that.

EDIT: Even then if you need 2 ish seconds befor you can actually hit someone with your Mg outside of point blank range it they will never be universaly usefull unlike an SF rifle that can even kill distant people on the move with no problem.

It can be an event or bottle pass weapon as well

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you forget that winter war saw use of fedorov which also came with 25 round magazine. considering there is no mention of specific mode, that self loading rifle could be fedorov.

also no matter if it existed or not, we dont need 25 round SF rifle in the game to make all other guns obsolete.

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But it’s directly written self-loading weapon. Probably it could be anything - a pudding as well, but written is self-loading rifle. Which is at 1939 means very particular things like AVS
Well, we have an Autohey with 30 rounds which is quite soon be against soviets.

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That part was never really confirmed by the devs.
The only thing promised was the one event but they were pretty clear that this would be a 1 off thing when they first announced it.

Even though after an open of the Soviet-Japanese front this AVS early could be a high reliable weapon

Self-loading rifles include:

it could mean AVS or it could mean fedorov.

t20 can comfortably go against hei AR and t20 is similar to avt40 20. hei AR has its downsides and soviets will not only face japan, but also germany. what are your suggestions for germany buffs then?

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Yeah - lets do 30 round FG42 next and 200 round Thompsons.

You know what? Realism is overrated, lets just remove reloading all together. Just shoot and never reload, thats fun!

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Give FG protoype to axis FG with ammunition belt

Anything else you can say or just :clown_face:?

No, people aint use autofire tbh - both AVS and SVT were known as semi-automatic rifles. Its a lot this name ina a memores

there was no FG with belt. the one you put in the link had magazine that was missing in FW video.

self loading rifle ≠ semi automatic rifle

A self-loading rifle or auto-loading rifle is a rifle with an action using a portion of the energy of each cartridge fired to load another cartridge.

anyways not only you need valid german alternative for 25 round SF rifle, you would also need valid US alternative for 25 round SF rifle.

SF rifles are already too powerful in the game, not to mention boosted 25 round versions of them. SF should be nerfed with higher recoil, so that AR actually have place in the game on BR5.

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Auto G43 with 25 rounds well enough - its almost equal guns

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Guys here made some topics about though
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