A twist for a new WWII campaign this game sorely needs

I do believe there is one theatre of world war 2 that has been severely lacking and possibly even suppressed somewhat except for a single relatively recent yet old single player series that has no multiplayer(in the recent games), the name of which I probably don’t need to mention for everyone to already know what I am talking about(wolfenstein).

A 1946-50 campaign solely focused on a “what if” scenario. It doesn’t even necessarily have to be super historical, but it would certainly fit in with the current style of gameplay and would go nicely with a complement of existing and new assets that would fit in with the theme. Allow me to explain and come up with a hypothetical scenario to the best of my ability, if you please.

Scenario: 1946, The New Offensive

Factions: Combined Allied and Commintern Reserve and Homeland Defense (Brits, Aussies, US Marines and Army, and Soviets all together) vs Combined Axis Forces(Germany, Japan, Italy)

Maps: Vladivostok, Cheyenne Mountain, New York city and or Washington DC, London

Starting(reserve) Weapons: MP40 vs Thompson, Garand vs G43, panther vs T34 85e and or KV85/Easy 8,

Tanks or other possible implements: E series tanks vs immediate next generation Allied tanks or things like the T29/95, Maus, Soviet experimentals, Japanese superheavy OI tank, or even utilize mechs

There are so many unique experimental planes that could find a home in a scenario like this I don’t even need to mention them all

Unique possible features:

  1. A “futuristic wwii setting” with mechs and exoskeleton infantry and ufos, or take on a more “historical” approach, or even a combination of the two.
  2. A “steal secret research scenario” in either London or Cheyenne Mountain, which would be like a king of the hill scenario where someone has to hack a computer then find a secret vault that could be in several random locations on the map or something like that

It could make use of the existing mech and cool space uniforms from the april fools events and find a permanent yet fitting home for them, for everyone to keep enjoying.

Something like this would set this game apart from anything out there right now in the WWII multiplayer scene, and give much more creative freedom in map and unit design for the devs, and open up a new avenue in WWII multiplayer gaming. We already have lots of prototype stuff, why not take us all the way without holding back in an appropriate avenue that just about everyone would enjoy?

This also has the benefit of keeping Enlisted focused on WWII in general and

I welcome any and all constructive criticisms and supplemental suggestions.

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Operation Unthinkable would be more ehm realistic and cooler.

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I’d rather we keep the Axis armies relevant. Japan doesn’t have a campaign it can transfer weapons to, this might be the only one possible.

Because we don’t have enough MP40s to grind or what?

I mentioned that MP40s and G43s should be the reserve/starting weapons so we can have a fresh set to grind for in the campaign

StGs wont make it better. Besides what do you want grind? This weirdo Wolfenstein wannabe might be not attractive.

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STGs, infrared, and other things might make it attractive to those people who enjoy the alternative wwii futuristic aesthetic, who don’t have a multiplayer alternative besides dead games like enemy territory and battlefield secret weapons.

I already mentioned the T29 heavy tank for Americans, there are loads of soviet experimentals, german and japanese ones, and this gives darkflow the opportunity to come up with their own weapons that would suit this theme, which games like Fall of Liberty(a 360 game) did quite nicely

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Maybe a gamemode where you have to bomb/take out from the inside a P.1000 Ratte tank before they could drive it to the enemy base would be cool, too.

I mean, the opportunity for new battlefield locations like DC and London and all the potential vehicles and things in a WWII game like this one seems too good to pass up. It’s something no one else is doing right now, and as fan of alt wwii games I would love to see an implementation like this to satisfy this niche that has been lacking a good multiplayer avenue

You have a somewhat unique idea here, but based on how much people love their historical accuracy here I don’t think something like this is a good idea. There would be such a stark difference between your suggested campaign and other campaigns that this would be much better as an april fools event or a different game entirely.

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Darkflow and Gaijin have already played with the idea of the alternate wwii in the april fools events, and I think they were well recieved in both cases, I believe? The mech and Moonbase event.

The MG45, stg45, and other prototype weapons and or alternate planned versions of them, some of which are already in the game, would fit in as campaign unlocks nicely.

I think that it deserves a closed test to see if a campaign like this would be fun and or feasible.

Also just because the most vocal people on the forums don’t like Maus and prototype weapons, doesn’t mean that there are at least an equal number of people such as myself who usually refrain from too much forum posting unless I believe it to be necessary, who do enjoy those things and wish there was more of it in games like this one specifically.

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You are right, the moon base event was very fun and well received. But I think a big reason for that was that it was a fun little event that was unique from the other campaigns. If the devs really worked hard on an alt-history campaign it would destroy the last vestiges of historical integrity the game still has. There are many people that really care that this game focuses on history, so they can be immersed in it. From a developer perspective it just doesn’t make sense to put all that effort into making a campaign that will infuriate a large number of people to the point of abandoning the game. They have made people angry in the past, but anger from a campaign like the one suggested would be unprecedented.

I didn’t say that they should mess up the historical aspect of other campaigns, nor am I making any excuses for any mistakes the devs have made with that. I want the right uniforms and appropriate weapons, too.

What I am saying, which is in regards to my suggestion and is separate from your gripe about historical accuracy, is that this would be the appropriate place for the alt history things to be brought to life without the issues of interfering with the “historical” aspect so that everyone can enjoy it. This would hopefully help preserve the integrity of the other campaigns by keeping the alt history and weird stuff to this campaign.

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The Alt history and historical groups don’t have to be at odds with each other, we should be able to coexist in the same game ecosystem and this would keep everyone happy and playing the same game.

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While not being directly at odds with each other, having historical and alt-historical campaigns would take away from the games overall historical accuracy. It could no longer market itself as even a semi-historical ww2 shooter. People would be upset that a more historical campaign was not developed like the battle for china or the battle of the bulge etc. It just doesn’t make sense to make a campaign that will make such a large portion of the players mad when they could make something like the pacific where almost everyone was really happy with it.

Although a seperate issue, the other campaigns you mentioned should be integrated in with the current campaigns we have so that the playerbase doesn’t get too divided. This leaves room for a unique but still relevant to wwii campaign which utilizes all factions in a unique setting to be used, instead of a campaign with WAY more of the same weapons and tanks. My suggestion is the only one that allows for many, many underutilized and unique experimentals and planned tanks/guns, or even brand new ones darkflow could make which could fit in with the theme.

There is someone else on the forum who had a similar idea. Mine would be to turn Stalingrad into Stalingrad/Kursk, Moscow into Moscow/Leningrad/Novgorod, and Normandy into Normandy/Battle of the Bulge to expand the historical campaigns.

The devs seem fine with Jumbos in Normandy and other such things that people didn’t like at first.

China may be more appropriate as a series of events rather than a campaign addon, however.

Yeah i think unthinkable wojld be cool (US,Uk Whermacth vs USSR) but with the whole stuff going on in 2022 might wanna hope for after the situation concludes, IMO i dont they will at the moment. but hey we can rely on custom games until then

Yeah i like that berlin could be operation bogratsion/berlin/ seelow which is already in berlin and thier uniforms aka summer and winter outfits depend on the battles time and tempertur

Or heres a suggestion make a spinoff game that uses the same amount of currency that you have in enlisted for allt history and advert that as the alt history game

I’d rather everyone stay in Enlisted so nobody has to download a separate client. This idea fits in well with what we already have.

Enlisted is already full of alt history(I’d rather we get the right tanks and camos but I am lenient on having rare guns in historic campaigns, as a personal preference) so a 46’ campaign seems to be the natural progression.