2.You often get put in maps that you did not play as extensively and are at a major disadvantage
You get uptier’d with equipment that puts you at an even bigger disadvantage
BR3 is vastly different playstyles to BR4 I experienced so far , you can get away without specialised soldiers in BR1-3 , in BR4-5 you get explosive spammed to kingdom come , want to retaliate ? too bad !
Putting people in battles where they are A. outclasses and B. unfamilliar with the map and C.are facing considerably more experienced and for that matter better equipped enemys - leads to people quitting the match - im going to lean out of the window here and say 0.7x multiplier for a score of arround 1000 at the end of the battle does not hurt as much as getting completely obliterated
There is no learning curve ( more a general problem with the tier system imho ) top fragger with 5000 points in BR3 ? have fun sucking dirt every 0,2 seconds in BR4 - no inbetween
Getting uptier as casual player deciding to stay in battle substantially lowers your progress speed of unlocking and earning new stuff which is ultimatively pointless now anyways because unlocking a single tier4-5 weapon is courting death anyways but I digress
Semi related to 7 , getting uptier’d lowers your earning so much that the already slow progression and minimal earnings for new players will be even lower , as a new player you wont pull 3000-4000 exp in battles anyways , even in your BR , new players will think that the already slow progression comes to a screeching halt once they get uptier’d more than 2-3 an evening because of how bad they will perform , so not only is the progression for new players slow , its also random as hell and all they earn will contribute to them getting weapons that will make the game even less rewarding for them
should ANYONE care about what I just wrote ? probably not , im not a super hardcore player , nor am I a aim god , ace pilot or pro panzer , in fact im still relatively fresh in this game
The TL;DR of this is , it feels like you are getting punished for playing for no apparent reason and completely randomly
That’s what War Thunder: Infantry Edition has become
That being said, BR III equipment can absolutely compete with BR V equipment. Shoot there’s little to no difference between III and V US besides trading in your M1 for an M2, your BAR for what essentially boils down to a belt fed BAR/mini M2 Browning however you want to slice it, and your Thompson for a drum Thompson
Not a whole lot of change there, and most people with decent skill should do about the same regardless
*edit: no judgement. I’m a long time gaijin games enjoyer, and I’ve spent more that anyone would consider responsible on these games, and I still play enlisted after the merge.
but then you would have to design all this complicated matchmaking where a lot of things can go wrong. unfortunately, considering the level of enlisted complexity and its mechanics, in which poorly selected players may even be unable to cause damage to others, is really important.
I too would prefer my teammates even to have worse equipment but a better understanding of the game, which would ultimately be a much better solution, but hey, you can’t have everything.
I kind of disagree with the statement that BR III equipment can compete with BR V equipment
a BR IV PLAYER with BR III equipment might be able to do it .A BR II-III new player like myself definetly can not compete with the constant and abhorent explosive spam , full auto weapons that can wipe an entire squad in one magazine in a split second , even if I had absolutely godlike aim I would be still at a disatvantage against top players with top weapons , I am in no way ready after below 100 hours to even defend myself in BR IV and V , sure I could force myself through 100 + more hours in uptier battles or just straight up IV and V but I am one of those strange people that wants to have fun while learning a game and dont want to be punished randomly for existing
isnt the whole stupid point of the stupid BR system to prevent stomps and protect new players from getting farmed off ? because its doing a sh!t job doing so
I say this from both perspectives , like mentioned - running arround in a battle completely demolishing people that can not retalliate is equaly as unfun as getting put in battles where im actively hindering my team from winning by not being able to pull my weight
BR I and II is for that. Learning. Figuring out how to play the game. BR III is SUPPOSED to be the mixing of the kiddie pool and the deep end. Get you ready for end game matches while also letting you still have your early war matches
Unfortunately, due to the playerbase all being BR V Krauts and nothing else, BR III Commies and US just get anally raped every match by IV’s and V’s. Plus I’ve been told even I’s and II’s get some handed to them by V’s as well which means the matchmaking is actively broken
But, nothing can be done about any of this until the playerbase grows a pair and diversifies from their “Kraut OP”
For all I care this means that the game ends for me after BR I & II - which by extension means that I have absolutely nothing to work towards past the fricking tier II bolties which im already more than sick off
for me , my point stands the jump between the BRs is gigantic , infact BRI -BRII is an entirely different game than BR V , no point in progressing past the first unlocks unless you want to get tortured by random chance - While at the same time BRI-III battles are sometimes so unchallanging that its unfair towards the actual completely new players getting farmed off by people that could wipe their entire team with a dry sponge
What I gather from what people are telling me is that this game is pointless to progress in unless I actively want to make the game experience much MUCH worse for myself or if I dont , make the experience for others MUCH MUCH MUCH worse
In essence , sealclub or be sealclubbed , great design 11/10 game design really
also I can entirely see why people say kraut OP , like you said , their teams are stacked to hell and back , dogpiling is a giant problem in online games but I actually dont know how I would fix that problem even , other MMOs are struggeling with this aswell and I think nobody has found a good solution so far because mechanics like an underdog bonus would just shift the powers somewhere else without fixing the problem
UNFORTUNATELY, this playerbase are all idiots who refuse to listen to anything I say, so they’re not gonna do that until the devs make them do it or whatever. So….yeah. I’ve given up on trying to help fix the game. It is what it is. They made their bed and I hope they hate every second of it
just imagine this situation. there is a huge “JOIN RANDOM FACTION! REINFORCE THE WEAKER SIDE! (bonus: 2,000 silver given at end battle report)” button. in the case of desertion, this button will be grayed out for the next 5 battles.
population balance perhaps magically, miraculously even, sorting itself? i have no doubt i will happily get my arse kicked while laughing aaaaall the way to the bank.
naturally, if they ever give it a try, i would expect it to be completely half assed, with “bonus: 50 silver”, and declaring it didnt worked. thats just how things work here, im afraid.
