7,65 mm and 9 mm M/Neuhausen MKMS:

A proposal for an Axis br3 smg.
There are no Finnish weapons in the Axis tech tree so i guess it should be added as an event weapon/squad or as a battle pass weapon.

Weapon specs
Calibre:
7,65 mm x 21 Parabellum / 9 mm x 19 Parabellum
Length 1025 mm
Barrel length 500 mm
Weight 3,9 kg
Fire-rate 800/minute
Magazine box: 40
Magazine weight 0,28 kg empty / 0,71 kg full
Official abbreviations:
“7,65 kp/Neuh.” and “765 KP NEUHAUSEN”
“9,00 kp/Neuh.” and “900 KP NEUHAUSEN”
Country of origin Switzerland
Prototype 1933 (earlier version)
Production At late 1930’s.

Finnish use: Finland bought 282 MKMS machineguns during Winter War, but they arrived too late for that. They were issued to Finnish home front troops, supplies units and coastal defence during Continuation War (1941 - 1944).

March 1940 42
April 1940 (*) 40
May of 1940 100
July 1940 100
Total 282

Source
https://www.jaegerplatoon.net/MACHINEPISTOLS2.htm

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Sorry but this thing can’t be BR III its better then Kiraly it has similar range to M2 Carabine 200-300 meters with good muzzle velocity and recoil its one of the best if not the best SMG of WW 2 its rate of fire is 850 according to books but its probably even higher then this

SIG MKPS at the Range

here when he fired it it was 1350 rpm with no big recoil its gonna be absolutely BR IV or BR V weapon.

If we compare it to PPSh-41 it has doble the range better muzzle velocity and much better accuracy and similar rate of fire the only thing PPSh-41 has better is more rounds since it has drum mag.

The sources differ in fire rates and cartridges.
Cartridge
9×25mm Mauser
7.63×25mm Mauser
7.65×21mm Parabellum
9×19mm Parabellum
If a varient is added with the 9 by 25 Mauser with that fire rate then yes it should definately be br IV or V depending on its stats.

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Its really good SMG I would say its really the best SMG of WW 2 its almost an assault rifle

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Its an amazing smg but was probably quite expensive due to the limited numbers produced.
Used by
Switzerland
Finland
Pontifical Swiss Guard
Mengjian
An argument can be made for Japan getting this as well.

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Mengjiang Gurilla Squad
1930 Model 2
Mengjian used the first variant 1930 it looks a bit different.

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Considering that this specific model of gun uses a direct blowback operation I find it highly unlikely that it’s chambered in 9x25.

Forgotten weapons list the MKMO with the 9 by 25 Mauser but also list another varient the MKMS/MKPS with the 9 by 19.

Yea the MKMO has the hesitation lock system to handle the extra power of 9x25, in contrast the MKMS does not and thus uses less powerful ammunition.

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