F2 bombs removed ? I dont remeber that somebody complain about it … New system is killer of new players … And old players and whales will raise to unlimited power. Soo thx devs.
Cons
Now that the academy is gone, the terrible reserve troop interface is even more inadequate. Please fix it to allow more options to filter / sort troops.
I like the academy interface where we could see each soldier by class as well as which soldiers were in reserve and which soldiers were assigned …
Deterioration of the system of retraining of fighters. It can’t be left like this. The old “retraining points” system was good and had no problems or conflicts with the new pumping system. It was removed to make your progress four times slower. Go and participate in my thread, if allowed to increase the grind 1 time, it will be increased again.
When I brought up the fact that this new update will lead to more grinding, people were up in arms and getting mad at my opinion.
Let’s not forget about the players who have supported this awful new system:
Welcome to a system of skeleton squads where you have to grind like crazy to get silver orders or buy those silver orders in order to fill up your squads.
Soldier levels and perks require 4-5 times more xp to unlock, and your soldier loses level each time you re-roll them for perks which are still random, and mostly useless. You now have to grind for 40+ hours (meaning days and weeks) or grab your wallet in order to get the perks you want.
You cannot exchange soldiers you do not need for silver orders.
The old system was tedious and a grindy with annoying time locks. The current system is equally tedious, continues to have a bad interface with no sorting options, and it is even more grindy, verging on the extreme, on top of that, with the added bonus that you are forced to pay for orders in order to get soldiers to fill up your squads.
The gap between new and casual players and veteran players and whales has been pushed into the stratosphere.
I hope this change is reconsidered and things are improved. As it is right now, it is plain pay to win.
The free battlepass, the achievements and the ones that get added to your daily tasks from the login rewards
Give us back old Lone Fighters. There is no reason to play it now, more here → Give us pre-today's Lone Fighters back! - #4 by 7685966
I dont like the new upgrade system for soldiers. I really liked the academy to train them.
Why did you change that???
Definitely a bad joke if that’s the case. Or a simple classic gaijin.
there are instances, where i die and i change to a BOT from my squad, he is unable to shot untill i change the weapon first.
even with full mag or a half one, the game simply doesnt register my mouse action.
They had to stop training and return.
I like the change aside from silvers being made almost wholly unavailable to f2p players in any usable amount
Silver weapon and bronze should both be given out the same way bronzes are, just at a slightly slower rate
I don’t like the changes at all. I liked the academy much better.
The best thing is, the German version does not even show what a level upgrade costs. After a click I was quickly rid of 56 bronze - I already lost the desire for the game.
So what should I do with the useless hundreds of reserve soldiers?
PS the daily login bonus is still buggy, 2 bronze weapons displayed but as always only get 1!
I absolutely love the changes to soldier progression. It’s fantastic.
Need a way to get rid of soldiers for bronze orders.
When gear changes come… will need a way to get rid of weapons for bronze orders, other than that, I am super looking forward to it.
thnx!
We remember them. Mechanics at WIP.
I like the changes, but it is true, that reaching high level soldiers is now very easy… perhaps way too easy, given how cheap upgrading is for highest level.
Sure, multiply this on more soldiers or squads and it adds up, but this change so far did few rather bad things as well.
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Empowered more veteran players even more since upgrade from rank III and IV to V is fairly cheap and relatively fast to aquire (considering it is supposed to be endgame tier of soldier… ). But who knows what are you guys planning for “veteran tier,” so this might be just a stepping stone before real endgame soldier rank.
Don´t get me wrong, I do not want WT level of grindiness, and I really like the concept that got rid of academy. It saved lot of time, but perhaps too much time. -
Screwed up new or casual players by the shortage of silver orders
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New way how to reroll perk is very grindy. Perhaps it was meant to compensate for easy way to get higher rank soldier in terms of grinding time for ranks? Either way, good balance should be found between the two.
I will pass this on to the developers in the feedback.
A little clarification from us. Sorry for the fact that we are not very clear about submitting the new system https://www.reddit.com/r/enlistedgame/comments/q88yhq/shall_we_discuss_the_new_training_system/
Focke Wulf 190 on Normandy is still bugged although it has been reported several times.
What i like:
Finally something to use bronze orders on
What i dislike:
RMN-50 class change - i don’t use mortar squads, and my troopers have backpack slots instead of second weapons, now the weapon i got for a goldorder is useless.
After a major change like that the weapons should be refunded for anyone that brought it, and if someone wants can buy it again.
Loss of academy…
Just wow… a change like that, without warning, announcement what will be done… nothing.
I just finished filling my reserves in battle for tunisia yesterday for 300 bronze orders.
I just brought 20 Assaulter III for my normandy campaign for silver orders.
I just finished training my 4* assaulters on normandy preparing to merge them into 5* of specifically Assaulter 3 given the better stats.
But ok, what i did don’t matter as much as what i cannot do now.
I cannot SELL my surplus of soldiers for orders.
I cannot CHANGE the class of a soldier as i could in the academy (be it a pilot to a gunner, or simply an assaulter 1 to an assaulter 2). I think this is a major issue, and you need to introduce a way to change the class.
The change to retraining was totally unnecessary, the system was fine as it was, now it just adds even more grind on top of an already grindy system. To get the perks i wanted i sometimes had to reroll DOZENS of times, before i would just stack up experience until i had a moment without the people i play with to roll my perks. Now, not only i have to grind waaaaay longer to get that one perk point, i need to reroll it whenever i get it or the experience is lost.
This is in my opinion the worse change in this patch.
I got premium and i feel like silver orders are gonna be an issue at some point, i perfer not to even think about F2P. May i suggest either:
-A system to trade orders (both type and “color”) so people are able to get the stuff they need? a 3:2 ratio for switching betwin soldier/weapon orders (give 3 get 2) and a 5:1 ration for bronze to silver and vice versa.
-Once you introduce “selling” unused soldiers, le people sell higher level (4* and 5*)soldiers for silver orders
-Introduce silver orders every 5 or 10 bronze orders gained.