How much base XP (before multipliers) did you get from your 5-8k score games? Also are those games primarily infantry or are you using a vehicle?
I build rally points consistently (although seems like barbed wire and sandbags give way more engineer points). Also in the third screenshot you can see I killed 4 tanks while the others I killed less…but still got less XP than the other games.
It’s super confusing and inconsistent how the XP is calculated at the end result. It would be nice if there was more transparency as to why more score or more time doesn’t always equal more XP.
First print you lost the batle. There’s a 1.5x xp just for winning.
With premium squads premium time winning the batle and getting 5 to 15k xp means around 40 to 60k per batle here.
Loosing would give me 20to30 k for the same in-game actions and xp.
Best squads apply a 1.4 to 1.5 x extra. But every action in-game counts in the end scorebord. Not just base xp.
Imo… Kinda off-topic here.
Best xp farm goes:
Be the best squad of that type 1.5x xp at the end
Be first position
Premium squads = double xp for every action that squad did
Premium time = double base xp per action
Capture kills, defencive kills are best xp farmers per minute.
Then vehicle kills.
Other actions give xp, but they are too low per min of your objective is farm a campaign in 1 or 2 weeks.
Eng xp it’s too low per min comparing to the number of kills you get inside an objective.
A kill is 30 xp. 45 inside or defending a point.
A eng spawn is 8to15 xp.
Even an assist gets same xp as a eng spawn. Not worth playing eng for the xp. Play eng to win the match. Once i place a spawn point, I don’t waste time placing Defences. I only place ammo when I need it.
I go with the mentality that Everyone can have a eng in every squad. If they want ammo, let them place them. If you are focused on getting xp, play for you.
Some actions give Too low xp for the effort. For example aa guns.
If m playing for xp, and xp only and I find the match boring, too slow or I m spawncamped, I usually move to another batle. I don’t loose nothing besides my time, so I try to make it count.
Just a note on XP from engi being too low for the effort, yes technically, however in invasion I always spawn engi first, set up a close rally so I’m always in the fight, drop ammo on point and create a quick bottle neck
.Straight away I have my 50 engi points and all my squads that come after will spawn close and have abundant ammo.
Engis pave the way for my other squads to really capitalise. And get the big scores
To clarify I’m referring to the base XP, the XP before the multipliers. My observation is that it isn’t a 1:1 correlation with the score. You’ll notice that even though I lost, my base XP before the multipliers was the same as another game with 2k more score.
My intention with this discussion wasn’t to complain about my XP but rather to get more transparency on how XP is calculated because it isn’t as intuitive as you’d think according to my results. As it stands right now, you can’t predict that X actions and Y score will result in Z XP. Maybe the discussion may bring to light issues in the way XP is calculated.
It is and isn’t.
You can do 100 xp with straight base kills on a open field
On another match 100 xp defencive kills.(example)
At the end of the match you still only see 100 base score on both matches.
Forget about xp multipliers and let’s say you won both.
You gonna get more final xp on the one you did the kills inside a point. Even tho, you did 100 base score both matches.
This was an example
For that you have to read all the details on the end scoreboard, over your mouse on the campaign xp, then what per squad actions gave the final xp.
If you add them, you get the end score, not the xp on the final leaderbord.
All actions with the xp gained ill apear there.
I m not entired sure, but time alive per squad may change the xp output. Since it’s a data point on the score bord.
I know what you’re saying, but it isn’t that simple. Compare this screenshot to the first one. More objective kills and score but less XP by 1000. Also check the experience breakdown - the squad with 1260 score achieved more XP than the squad with 1365 score. So counterintuitive.
Also the pts from kills (+30), defense (+15), tanks (+100), etc is score not XP. So you can’t say a tank kill = 100 XP or whatever. There’s no way to know how much XP it is. XP is all in the backend and we don’t know how Darkflow translates actions and score into XP. If you keep track of your results, you’ll see that things don’t add up and something funky is going on from match to match.
I don’t think kill tanks can get many exp, I attached 2 pictures shows 2 games in row that got nearly same kills, same zone kills, same cap point, same assist. Funny that the game with much more tanks killed and rally points builded, got much less EXP.
Thank you so much for sharing. This is a textbook example of what I mean. It makes no sense why the results are so different. A 38% difference! You might be suspicious of the time, but I’ve shown in my screenshots that it is not necessarily always the case that the game with more time and score (pic 3 v pic 1) will have more xp.
When I play an awesome game I want an awesome result, but I end up with basically the same result as a normal game. Super disappointing and confusing. The whole XP calculation is super opaque. Darkflow give us more transparency.
Heres the other thing about XP, are your squad XP upgrades done? how many specialists of the corresponding squad took part and how much did they do? (For example if you are using an assaulter squad with 4 assaulters or less, 6 engineers in engineer squad or less perhaps a tank with only 2 crew as apposed to a tank with 6 crew) specialists get more XP used inside their parent squad.
Did you use a premium squad at any point or now the XP boost. So many factors
I could be wrong about this but I believe it matters.
If I used say a rifle squad, but my assaulter got 20 kills, he would get less XP than if he got 20 kills in an assaulter squad. Same kills, different XP. Then comes on all the other stuff, multi kill, objective kill, head shot, best in class
That’s not true. That only applies to the soldier XP, not campaign XP. If you scroll you see the campaign XP is made up from the squads. If you scroll to the squads that XP is then multiplied by the squad XP. If you scroll to the soldier you will see the soldier multiplier.
As I said, I could be wrong but I’m not convinced without being home to actually look at the break down. I’ve never had cause to look at it so closely.
The match results that 2 pics showed was played in row, 2nd one is the game just after the 1st one 2mins later, same 3 fully upgraded infantry squads participated.
But there’s a chance that the soldiers used more “averagely” in the 1st game since I was killed so many times, and the 2nd one was more focused on a few soldiers.
Squad upgrades dont give campaing exp. I posted pic in earlier topic, got 2 defensive kilss and quitted. Another kill was made by 1lvl sniper squad and another one with some random max lvl squad. It was same exp from both teams
Squad xp levels on upgrades its just to get more xp for the squad to level them fastet.
The soldier xp on the squad upgrade, it’s for soldiers xp to level them faster.
Problem is still relevant. Just had a 13.5k total score game which netted me 10.5k experience. This doesn’t seem to add up or at the very least the xp system is unnecessarily complicated and thus confuses the heck out of normal players. I feel a bit cheated for getting 23% less xp than what i felt entitled to :D.
