Why no win?

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German mains will kill the game if given the opportunity, so tossing out the biggest tryhards who would quit is the best chance the game has.

Those who would quit are those who are actively making the game worse. Do a wipe first and minimize the damage, and only the most toxic will quit.

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While we’re at it, there could be a CO-OP mode added for those who enjoy the current German game play. So they get their niche and it still has value in testing for bugs and leaves the Devs tons of room for experimentation, it not being limited by the need for balancing.

I do agree that they should force players to play both for the duration of the CBT by whatever means possible to maintain fair-play so as to keep people from quitting.
Maybe enforce playing both sides alternately to disable quitting the game and switching sides.

With nobody playing the Soviets, you’re effectively running half a beta-test.

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You cant prevent people from pessing alt+F4. Do you guys want the game to die even faster than it already does?

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You’re comparing a certain death by keeping things the way they are now, to a possibility of success by altering matchmaking.

Causing toxic players to quit will improve the game if anything.

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I wouldnt call myself toxic, but I would sure as hell quit if I was forced to play a nation I have 0 interest in playing.

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Back to the main point, there is no real difference between the two factions, playstyle or otherwise.
They get a couple of different weapons which don’t have a major impact on gameplay.

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I don’t see much difference too. It’s close to a bf4 nations.

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The MP is useful at most ranges where the PPD is not. Their playstyles are a bit different in that respect.

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haha i no read
reason why lose as glorious mother rosia is because of

  1. entire most of t eam is actual bots, not players
    1.2. normally not issue but in game the all bot squads very very bad, even compared to typical fps player
  2. anyone in game has to have buy premium pack mostly
  3. german premium pack and tanks are better than soviet ones most of time
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Indeed. There is no big difference at all. Except you don’t need to lie down with MG-13 or sharpshooting MP. So even their play style is pretty equal

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By MP 41 I more meant premiums as a whole. I have little love for PPKs as well.
“I run high health 0 recoil premiums because I like automatic weapons” isn’t very believable.

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How is going close range BRAP with a PPD “pretty equal” to burst firing MPs at mid range?

I have rerolled my perks because of that.

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Because you really don’t need to burst fire with the MP38 or 40

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You can do both with both very well.

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Both weapons still promote a different playstyle.
PPD is definitely better at CQC, while MP is definitely better at mid-range.
Larger magazine sizes and higher PDS vs lower recoil per second (not per shot)

You can’t play both sides exactly the same and expect the same results (playstyle wise, I know winrate is different and you have to play differently to compensate for bots as Soviets).

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the only place that really applies is with tanks and attackers. Differences with infantry weapons are too minute to matter. It’s just bomb size vs bomb count and machine guns vs HE where the differences lie.

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Then what’s with all the complaining about MP41s being lasers at mid range and them needing a nerf?
Like I agree they are lasers, and therefore better at mid range, and now you like “no they play exactly the same”

Tbh instead of going onto these discussions again I really think you guys should be coming up with ways to ATTRACT more people into playing soviets, instead of trying to force soviets onto other players (introducing OP gear is included in this “forcing”).

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I’ve said before, PPKs are probably just as bad, they’re just less common.

I’ve also said before that the Soviets could get a massive buff tomorrow to become objectively superior and players still wouldn’t leave Germany because that’s the rut the community is in.

Any lasting change would need to come with a wipe to to stop progression from being a factor at the very least.

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They would. But in favor of uninstalling instead of joining Soviets

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You talk about tactic, people talk about strategy. Both teams have same strategy - use SMg, me squads to make more damage on close and mid range, building ralley points - it’s all the same.
I don’t like it BTW I like rifles. But nvm it’s all the same for both sides. It’s not like Moba