With 7.98mm ? yes i think thats possible for sure if not even more if youre lucky and got skills. I even managed to shoot them from around 800-1k meters with those. Longest shot so far is around 1.5k from a fighter plane but that was with 13mm
Yeah, that was an unnecessary exaggeration on my part. It feels (resorting to “feels” because I’ve never bothered to actually count) like at least half the tasks are infantry-specific, but there is indeed a decent amount of neutral ones.
There aren’t any aircraft-specific ones, though, as far as I remember. Or are there? “Kill X airplanes” is as close as it gets I think, but that task can be finished with AAA. It’s more practical to do it with a fighter, but only if you are a decent pilot. Something tells me most people reroll it, just because it requires the enemy to actually use airplanes if nothing else.
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It sounds like you are confusing “fake” kills with actual kills, unless the enemy bots are stacking up like chickens it shouldnt be possible to get a reliable amount of kills with the MGs. You are likely just doing bits of damage and maybe actually killing one or two, but the other kills you get are from friendly bots killing enemy bots. The game counts this kills as yours even tho you didnt actually kill them at all.
Even then, it doesnt matter. For every few kills you do by strafing you make a dozen more as infantry at minimum, nevermind if you are in a tank. The amount of time and ammo (which you may need) wasted has a good probability of getting you killed by AAA or another plane, but since you are doing basically nothing with just your MGs then no one will bother.
well if it is says 7.98 in the killfeed then its my 7.98 or else it would have been shown Kar98 or knife etc…
If i got 7.5k in an BF109 A2 with an noob pilot (thats me) with only shooting down 2 planes its more then useless
Also you can judge here if im also useless for ma team here…
Sure an fighters main job or effectiveness isnt to kill a lot of infantry…thats Attackers jobs
But saying Fighters are useless in strafe runnings thats just being ignorant
Not saying that 7.98 is the best gun for that duty and can be hard. But you can be effective with that one to and it has been shown in my wonderful ME Hvy fighter of which there will be an vid of soon <3
And you know what extra i also provide intel and can see things the ground forces cant
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You literally proved you were being useless with the video.
Wow, one or two kills to none every strafe(mostly with cannons, at that)… while also having to cut in between because all the time it took you to turn around, gain alt, and position yourself. So useful for the team, totally. Being able to provide intel is nearly useless in this game, only would be good if you were playing with somebody (which you aren’t). Lately I’ve seen multiple people using Ju + 109G10 which can actually be good, unlike solo G10.
Instead of wasting so much time with so little kills and support, you could had been using the 109G6 instead which would had been way better. Not only would you kill multiple people with the 4x50kg bombs, you would also have tank-busting abilities, while simultaneously remaining a better fighter than nearly anything the Allies have. But now that I remember, I think I saw somewhere that you are bad with bombs so maybe that’s not an option for you. So the other option would be the Fw, which ain’t as good of a fighter but has high fire power and pretty good rockets. Basically, anything but what you’re doing would had been way better for your team.
Also, you were lucky that you never had to worry about any decent enemy player on a plane. Not only are you making yourself extremely vulnerable, you are throwing away most of your ammo which means that you wont be able to engage properly, nevermind shoot down multiple planes in a row if needed.
You wanna know a certified way to know if you are being useful to your team? When the enemy is constantly trying to shoot you down with AAA. Seeing the enemy trying to kill me (especially premium players) after I shot them down or destroyed their tanks multiple times, along with over a dozen of kills every time I bomb, feels absolutely great.
Don’t understand your obsession for strafing, but your team is definitely not winning because of it. No doubt about that.
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yes ignorant it is then xD you also missed the couple of spawnpoints i took out and i was nr 2 when we won so yeah im def useless lol I bet Mr 110 in the air was pretty happy also as he or she did an great job 
And Bad bomber ? where did you get that from ? please link mr high roller 
and yes they got so annoyed in the end that they put up AA and i know but thats not the only thing. When they put up fighters and attackers to just to take you down. Then they got 3 squads assigned to you. Im not new at this you know.
But please share your expertise to me…I want to see you in action being very useful in the air so i can learn from the best
Decent ? i wouldnt have worried in that plane which is the point with those and ive dogfighted top players with FW190.
Im no Ace yet but im not bad either. Still have much to learn and certainly will have to when i reach Ace lvl
But since im no Ace Fighter pilot and can do that…imagine what an Ace pilot can then do
Word Useless is just being ignorant of which you just have proven yourself to be
Couple of spawnpoints you would had been able to take out in other ways. You were useless because you actually thought strafing does anything, shooting down planes has nothing to do with it. I bet the bf 110 didnt care you were there, the guy was likely thinking about stealing plane kills and getting a bunch of rocket kills.
It was long ago so obviously I wont remember where I saw it, but it was a screenshot of you pretty much saying bombs are bad and whatever. I am sure you remember.
My game time consists mostly of me using a plane. Even tho the past months Ive been using them less or have been jumping off to do something else. Doesnt matter, since I actually help my team by bombing (mostly tanks every time I can) instead of strafing and doing nothing. Anyone with a brain would tell you that strafing is a bad option in this game.
Anyone decent would had shot you down in that situation regardless of you being on a superior fighter plane, it gives you slightly better stats, not immortality. 12.7 dont struggle with distance, it comes down to the guy actually being able to aim properly.
Define “top players”, a lot of this people aren’t as good as everyone seem to think they are. The average player is bad at flying, top players tend to only be good at the basics and a chunk of this people just kamikaze. In fact, the average player is bad at everything which makes being “top” easier.
There’s no such thing as “Ace pilot” in this game, flying doesnt have a skill ceiling high enough for that. Even if there was a thing such as an “Ace”, this Ace would say that it would be dumb to strafe when you can just bomb. In general, using anything without bombs or rockets wouldnt be smart unless in a couple situations. The fact that you seem to think that strafing is somehow good enough to trade for bomb or rockets just shows your strange obsession with it.
Apparently I am ignorant for using my brain. You edited your reply 4 times and it still has horrible grammar, were you heated up when you replied or something?
Also, you seem to think you are really good at flying. Let me tell you that you are not, its just that most people are bad at it. You are subpar at best, just because you use superior planes, use flaps and shoot down people, it doesnt mean that you are good at it.
I also used to think I was really good initially, but after playing a while with multiple planes I would dogfight against I came to the conlusion that this wasnt the case. You become really good at flying when you can outmaneuver anything without the need of better or equal stats to the point in which you may not even need to change flaps, when you dont need to rely on the reticule to hit accurately, when you have complete knowledge of all planes you use and go against, when you can pull crazy stunts when in a 1v2 (not against bad pilots), when you are able to completely predict a player based on their behavior and not because of muscle memory, etc.
But most importantly, when you are able to know what benefits the team the most. Regardless of how much you believe otherwise, strafing is just a huge waste of time and a danger to yourself. There’s nothing easier to out maneuver and shoot down than a cocky pilot. Based on some of your footage I’ve seen that you have posted in the forum including one of the max upgraded fw, you arent even halfway there to being a really good pilot.
was today so skip the bs xD especially all the bs you been typing above lmao
Not all ofc since i also do know that every rly good players didnt play the event but i can assess the really good pilots from the not so… And to add not all the best inf guys know how to fly and thats ok…
Here we go since you so much insist playing strawman
https://forum.enlisted.net/t/russian-bias/39370/63
Now point out where im saying bombs are bad whatever ?
Bet you havent even watched that video with FW like you didnt even barely watched the small strafe vid xD
Ok so show me how you fly an fighter or a bomber so i can see where your mouth is running and at least give you some cred And no i dont think im an hot shot fighter pilot as you try to portray xD
Afraid ? nah that aint true. the problem is whenever i swap into a fighter in some campaign theres usually no enemy fighter or bomber present and if wait long enough playing as a pilot i ended up not contributing to my team, lose the game, and not gaining any xp. even if my team wins you still don’t get that much xp in the game. its a waste of time and you’re better off playing war thunder if you’re into dog fighting
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I though it was some time ago, if I saw it today I would had said I saw it today. If I did see it today then I forgot. The thing you linked doesn’t exist anymore so I cant verify. Also, you don’t even know what strawman is.
I know for a fact I saw a guy that posted a screenshot about you basically saying that bombs were bad, my long-term memory is pretty good on random stuff I see for some reason.
Unfortunately I cant show you (Unless there’s a way to see battle history I don’t know about), I don’t screenshot games in which I do good because I (almost) always do good. Maybe I can screenshot when I play but I doubt I’ll do it, don’t think I will remember to do it because I just spam OK.
Anyway, I gave a quick check to your activity to see if I could find it. But because you have a lot of activity I ended up just looking into a few, and I saw this two screenshots you posted from just less than a month ago.
Now why is this relevant? Because you said that this were one of your best games, its unlikely that you suddenly got significantly better in such a short time while still strafing. Posting this and saying that tells me how proud you are about it, and that’s great; you’re having fun. The thing is that I pull 100+ kills and 8+ vehicle kills relatively easily with 0 deaths most times I really don’t want to play as infantry (when I don’t want to play as infantry I play slower and safer, so my performance tends to be a bit worse). This is not because I am good at it (I am), but because planes with rockets/bombs are that good. If you stopped wasting time strafing, maybe you could pull those numbers too if you are good at using bombs/rockets and knowing where to send them.
Yes, you do think you are a hot shot fighter pilot taking into account how defensive you get about strafing and how you keep telling people they don’t know what they are talking about and that they are bad every time you get the chance. Have you never stopped and wondered if strafing isn’t actually effective versus anything else? What’s the source of your obsession with strafing?
With FW190 yes then being new at it with that first one and ? xD
All the shit you been spewing about above about my grammar, the uselessness whatever is just and clear indication that youre just an bullshitter…just saying.
Especially when i made nr 2 in points in that game and you still called me useless xD Then to say that the BF110 didnt give a shit about me when we had an really coordinated game communicating with each other so youre just full of shit xD sorry but you are
And yes sometimes you can have bad runs even games. So can you with Tanks and even miss an HE round as you can with bombs, even the best ones…What does that have to do with things ? absolutely nothing…Have a nice day sir until you prove what you say. Because for now im pretty sure youre full of it
(Since that post “magically disappeared” after i wrote that to you here are some of my bombing runs that you mentioned from someone else that im shit at)
Now have a laugh at my expense for wasting my time and im pretty sure you already seen these to 
now lets get back to topic
Ps. Also find it funny that you cant remember some random shit that happened pretty recently of which you brought up out from no where but you can remember an scoreboard that was posted quite some time ago about something else Then call it the best ive ever…that im so proud of…lol. No thats just me saying that its not useless.
My best strafing only with 2 planes involved like ive said was around 7.5k points (BF109A2) and wouldnt call that useless and then i wasnt that in to strafing so to speak
And you calling it an obsession ? No but im saying that its something you should do while protecting the bombers and still can be useful along with spotting and communicating because it does help whatever you say people do respond and act on it…sometimes not depends on the playerbase
DS. Still trying to figure out how to manipulate and portray me as some wanna be grandiose Fighter pilot in disguise ? Still see you trying to type for a long time and no need to waste your breath. You have your point of view i have mine…Lets get back to dogfighting shall we ? And you can keep your bombing runs as i do enjoy being an fighter pilot
With 7.7, no it’s not. And not sure what 7.98 you’re talking about. Didn’t you mean 7.92?
And are you sure those are all your kills? And not random rifle kills you got credited for? Cause that also happens. I’d honestly like a screenshot of you getting 8 kills in a single pass with a bombles fighter. (Though I ain’t pushing you of course, not everyone has the time to put into attempting that)
Wait, did you really edit that post to add the FW part? If you had actually originally said it was the best for that plane I wouldnt had mentioned it. But lets give you the benefit of doubt and say that I somehow skipped “FW190” even with all caps and numbers when reading it.
“All the shit”? I only mentioned your grammar in a single sentence, it was to point out your bad grammar even when editing multiple times so hopefully you would fix it.
What does that have to do with bs?
Ok so I see massive lack of reading comprehension. Can you tell me where did I say that you specifically were overall being useless? What you were doing was useless for the team, and that was the strafing. I even implied that you got top 2 because of planes shot down and that it had nothing to do with what I was saying… you can go re-read it if you want, I dont edit my replies 20 times so theres no need to believe that I edited it in last second.
Ok, so apparently I am “full of shit” for saying that the bf 110 guy didnt care about you and was just trying to steal plane kills and blowing up infantry with rockets, but you arent full of shit now that you are conveniently saying that you and the guy somehow had a comrade-level connection with full communication and callouts? Talk about bullshitting…
I dont care about your bombing runs, it was by your own words that I saw you said that bombs were bad. The one that was calling you bad at bombing was the guy who posted the screenshot, I was questioning your skill when it came to using rockets and bombs (thats why I used “if”). Frankly, those videos dont prove anything. The only thing they prove is that you always seem to record/screenshot and post every time you do well.
What? Laughing at your expense? Bro, do you even know what you are saying? Why would I had seen those videos anyway? You think I would be wasting my time seeing random vids on a channel with a guy doing subpar or average stuff? Ive only seen like 3 videos that you have posted in the forum, and obviously I didnt watch them from end to finish without skipping; its not entertaining to watch.
Again with the lack of reading comprehension. Please go back and re-read my reply in which I clearly said I had JUST checked your activity to find the “bomb bad screenshot”. I had never seen those screenshots before, the fact that I read it so recently is the reason I believe you edited the FW in.
Its not possible to get 7.5k points from just strafing, you obviously shot down planes too. Also, is that 7.5k the total including the premium and battle multiplier or the raw experience made?
You DO have an obsession with strafing. Not only do you defend it to hell, you literally mention it every time you talk about planes. Dont know in what universe you live in that strafing is useful, your videos clearly show that you do from 0 to 2 kills in average. The amount of time it took you to do all of this could had been used to actually bomb or to play as infantry with way better results. Also, “spotting and communicating” is all bullshit as you love to say. You never did this in your vids, along with the amount of time it takes to write to your teammates and them actually caring clearly makes it bs. Everyone knows that this stuff doesnt just happen with randoms, unless you also come up with the bs that you find people like that all the time which you can communicate with quickly and effectively.
Yes, lets end it. Clearly you are unable to read properly and love to come up with stuff that basically never happens. This started because people told you it was bs to get a good amount of kills from strafing, even less from 7mm. Its not the first time people have told you that its not a good option, youd think that with so many people telling you otherwise you would stop and wonder if they are right.
8 kills in a single strafe you mean ? Ill see what i can do if i get it captured that is 
My personal is 7 (clean kills) in one strafe rn but pretty sure you could get more if youre lucky and get the strafe right
And yes im aware of the finishing shot from the other players which ive also mentioned above is indicated by other rifles or weapons not the 7,12,13 or 20…Except if you manage to knife some one with your wing
Here was something from the past though that ive managed to catch with 5 in one run but was such short one and would advice to get a longer hit span by slowing down from longer distance. How ever i needed to be quick on that one due to enemy capping
But i guess youre after bigger kill strafes from the 7+mm which i do got in the ME and will be a lot of recordings for sure soon (Only one star left to go and 40 bronze)
And yes i ment 7.92
I created this post to discuss potential value of fighters in Tunisia, I see two enthusiastic people with differences hammering each other, it’s ok not to agree chill… no wonder Keofox posts on Reddit more than forums.
Ok, I am not saying a fighter wins a game purely by itself. But there are a few things to consider.
- I only bring a fighter to the battle when you hear or see enemy planes, some times this is totally random, sometimes you get no planes, it might be time of day, but for me, more in mornings, evenings, day time is rare… I strafe when in a plane waiting for other planes, I get more daring each time if still no planes, until I eventually crash…
Fighters / planes are good for:
- Recon if in a squad with your friends, or even to put a spot market down and get 15+ Assist points, also you are the eye in the sky so spot for your team.
- You take down enemy attackers, that means your teams tanks will survive!
- Strafing troops, it takes skill and patience and good line up
- When bombers are introduced as per air raids, fighters will be necessary, of course AA works too
But guys don’t squabble, just chill it’s ok to not see eye to eye
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I mean, if your personal best is 7 and your (seemingly) recorded best is 5 with cannons, then I highly doubt you can do 8+ with light mgs (never mind consistently doing it as you claimed in your original statement)
I’d say for a bombless fighter without cannons, 0-4 is the avrage strafe run.
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Yeah I get it.
If any one of us wants to stop arguing, they can just leave and if you don’t want us spamming your thread, tell us and we’ll leave, otherwise you can flag our posts as off-topic.
well to me i ment regular strafe runs with cannons ofc incl 7s…But when you asked if its possible to get that streak with 7s i would say its possible but harder for sure. But yes we could open an Strafe run discussion thread instead Since this is about Tunisia per say
Ok.
But admit you were exaggerating here:
The only other option is that you misunderstood what I meant, and thought I meant best possible amount instead of avrage amount.
no not on rly when you starting to understand strafe runs…but sure sometimes you dont hit at all ofc since two factors
- Your team isnt marking
- You cant see the enemies firing which is the second thing you must look for if the team wont help you
And bonus: You try to predict where the enemies will come but they chose another path
But sometimes you can catch an nice blob to. You look for X markers then you spray more intense around that area like you do with tanks against buildings
This also applies to bombers to and theres times you get frustrated since you cant find targets even on predicted pathways and smart Tank commanders
Theres a reason why you can get good points and topping the scoreboard with almost no enemy planes in the air and thats strafing.
But i havent at all negated that attack planes are much better at that which isnt rly the fighters job but they still can be effective as support and even snipe AA gunners out from their seats, Active MG nests and kill men from behind thick defensive points without much hvy lifting…
So when someone says they are useless i just cant agree
Strafe runs are pretty similar like Stuka learning to dry hunt tanks (without marks) except you can pretty much do it more