you on your period or something… i mean ghillie suits… in the technical term you know like these fucking things and i already went over this with a few other people talking about how they would be generally useless because of the killcam which is the reason for suggesting the you will not show up on killcams function to the ghillie suit while you give up a bit of your mobility so it doesn’t become an item everyone in the game then has on their loadouts…
Dude smoke more Weed, talking with you is like pushing thick pigshit trough a funnel. Holy damn
So apparently my first post to you was 100% what I intended and yes I read your bloody post correct. So I will post my 1st one again and for the love of christ dont act like I didnt read it again.
So no, not 100% will use it. Even if 10% uses it it will be way way way more then it was used in ww2 so it will break how a ww2 battle should look. Every sniper will use that, not every sniper in ww 2 used a Ghillie. So I really hope they wont add this.
again Miss PMS… having a ghillie suit on your soldier will slow you down by nearly 50% making you much easier to pick off by anyone… making it a terrible item for high mobility squads… its thing called the “trade off” that makes the item non-meta
you would have to utilize cover to maximize the effect of the suit because if your just running across the map or into the point you’ll be moving like you got lead in your boots
additionally it should only make you invisible from killcam while in bushes, tall grass or near trees
Then we will have MG squads camping it out in bushes lol they dont care if you cant move. I think we should incentivize people to push more and not camp more
i mean,
sure. you can wear ghillie suit, but your weapon still make noises and when you kill someone, you are highlighted.
the problem would occour with people having max and low graphic. the first one can’t see you, the second one. is not sure if it’s a player, or a bush.
with this saying, i have neutral " vote " about ghillie suits, but i don’t think they should be included. for the simple reasons that you already have to deal with tanks, enemy squads inside houses, airplanes, yada yada yada, having even to check each bushes for snipers or ghillies it’s not ideal nor needed for the current gameplay.
but, this could be “fixed” if the ghllie would have different colors from the enivorement. perhaps more noticable. although, it would lose the main porpouse of a ghillie.
lastly, i don’t think it’s going to be introducted.
it might be, but not like you might think.
here is an answer that the devs gaved during a live of Q & A:
they didn’t talked about ghillies, but the part where they said:
but here we try to not exeed for point of balance
they were talking about avoindig to be at the point that it would make someone invisible or harder to spot.
i have to remind you that gaijin got heavely criticized for the bushes over war thunder because those were indeed pay to win. at the point where they added the ability to obtain them. " to get away with it ".
so yeah, if they don’t make you invisible, i’m all for. if not, than it’s a no.
Please consider m2 Hyde on that equation. It was never issued.
hopefully never
yep like i also said at the beginning of this topic machine gunners and snipers would benefit from this item the most… your literally just repeating what i pointed out but your doing it in a bitching and complaining manner…
and like many people have pointed out before if they don’t remove you from killcam then the ghillie suit is utterly fucking useless because all it takes is killing 1 person to give your location away… which wouldn’t happen in real life… it would take more then a single shot for the enemy to figure out exactly where your posted up… especially if your laying down in a bush wearing a suit that’s covered in the bushes
as for the suits colour its a simple enough problem to solve… just make the brush on the suit reflect the map your going into… like you would do with a real ghillie suit… not not gonna be wearing swamp brush going into a fucking winter battlezone… also take into account that in urban situations where there isnt a lot of nature ghillie suits would have very little use since you would appear on killcam then because your not in bushes in nature
i just told you in good manners what should be obvious to you
no what you did was complain about the function of a ghillie suit making you harder to see and removing you from the unrealistic killcam when you take someones head off from 200 yards and they then spot you and drop a fucking arti strike on you…
at like 200 yards you wouldn’t be seeing a sniper after they shoot you ghillie suit or not… but you can here…
ok, i tried with the good ways.
honestly, just like everyone said, it’s a bad idea.
for no reason soldiers should have ghillie.
and let alone remove the kill cam.
it’s just utterly stupid.
above all, as i even showed you some proofs, it ain’t coming because even the devs do not want to incetivize camping.
Deal
With
It.
being able to see what soldier and where a shot came from regardless of the distance of the shot is the thing thats utterly stupid… if you wanna be historically accurate or accurate in any fucking way you’d realize killcam shouldn’t even fucking exist…
its a cheap system that assists moronic players who couldn’t find the enemy by any other means…
if you want to be historically accurate, i’m afraid this game is not for you.
if your gonna bring up the historical accuracy of ghillie suits in WW2 as an argument you can’t even bring up that “this is a game so it shouldn’t be historically accurate”
sorry that wasn’t you wrong guy…
doesn’t care.
it’s simple as that.
i would like to see many things. but unlike you, i realize their issues.
and for no reason anyone should be able to make them self/selves invisible.
it’s just a no. especially involving bushes.
if you don’t have a good computer, or you have a excellent one, i’m not sure how much you would enjoy getting killed by someone that you can’t literally see.
( not to mention, even devs don’t want to do that… )
you do realize there is no view distance setting… soo everyone see’s the same distance by default… as for your issue with people making themselves invisible… if there was no reason for it then ghillie suits wouldn’t exist in real warfare now would they…
now i tried to cater to everyone’s complaints i suggested making the Ghillie suit decrease your movement speed by 50% so you’ll be a fucking walking target if you try to use this on any soldier that isn’t good at shooting from brush cover to avoid all people just equipping one, iv suggested limiting the remove from killcam ability to only when your in bushes, high grass or close to trees (basically only in natural enviroments) so when you run out of these environments you lose that ability and anyone you kill then will be able to see you on killcam…
those are some pretty severe downsides for a little bit of stealth, you’ll end up taking twice as long to get anywhere because your movement will be bogged down to half speed things like barbed wire will end up hurting a shitload more cause you move through it slower and escaping a flanking enemy who has figured out where your shooting from good fucking luck with that since your 50% slower…
ok and i guess i could suggest 1 more vulnerability they could give the ghillie… if you kill someone within 50m you will show up on killcam… so you have to go after people who are further away to keep yourself hidden…
exept, enlisted is not real life.
sounds like more reasons TO NOT ADD IT.
why? just to have a better shot?
doesn’t sounds good to me to be fair.
listen buddy, i’m not here to be the black witch or anything. but i’m just going to “give” my best of luck to your suggestion.
cheers.
no your just that dude who shoots down all ideas and everyone around you just get annoyed because you don’t give any real reason why other then complaining its not real life while quoting real life… you then completely disregard the fact that it doesn’t matter how good of a shot you are you could hit an enemy in the head from over 300m with a sniper and you currently still pop up on killcam which is completely and utterly mental… because with the 8x scope its fairly difficult to see the ant sized head on the person your aiming for that far away…
thank god you don’t know me
although, you should not say such things that you don’t know.
because i’m fine with it. it teach me not to be a pesky sniper that it’s going to ruin someone days.
just like your " real life " snipers would do, they usually don’t stand in the same spot ( i mean, it really depends ).
learn from them, and you might avoid being highlighted.
i do not support campers. even if it’s a sniper. it’s a dev decisions which i might or might not support. but i deal with it. and it’s fine.
because just like i don’t get along getting killed by people that i can’t see, i’m quite sure the same it goes for others people.