What is wrong with germany and how to fix it

pps43 is on the same tier as Germany smg’s at BR2, but last I checked you should also be able to use the urgan smg at BR2

the dispersion is really accurate for a smg.

I was checking the wrong thing, and the uragan smg is just the mp40 but with slightly altered stats. It’s dispersion is trash and only slightly better than the obrez (the one I was checking by accident).
These are the stats for the standard German BRII smg’s. The column directly to the left of the ‘0.0’ column is the dispersion.


These are the stats for all the non-premium/event smg’s you could be facing when you are at BRII. The pps-43 has .01 more dispersion than your mp40, but has about the same performance from what I’ve seen (and stolen).

As you can see, you have more accurate options than they do. It could just be that they spec’d their soldiers for recoil control.

I guess what I’m really saying is that German players have to research 11 guns to reach the mp40 but Russia players get it in three. Russia gets lots of the same guns or slightly better sooner.

The tech tree layout is just a product of the poorly done merge. USSR has almost nothing at BRIV better than their BRIII counterparts, and for a while they didn’t have a semi-auto rifle at BRII. Also, the research cost totals aren’t too far off. The only major thing you get later than the USSR is a rifle with an AT grenade (which I haven’t seen anyone but me use).
The tech tree bloat is a shared issue for every faction, it’s just especially noticable as USA and Germany.
The issue of all the equipment being about the same is just because the devs made BRI/II have hardly any differences between factions.

also urgan smg is 750 stock rpm but mp40 is 570 rpm upgraded.

The uragan smg is a BRIII smg, that was probably just done to make it in-line with other BRIII weapons. The dispersion and recoil are awful stock and it does less damage per shot than the mp40.

The big fix in my opinion is to collapse the tec tree into multiple on the same spot and let people that want to grind the entire tree get good guns but let people move on. I dislike the grind for the same gun five times.

pps 43 is 700 RPM, 32 vertical and 11 horizontal but the mp40 is 500 RPM, 30 vertical, and 10 horizontal. The pps 42 is 600 RPM, 27 vertical, and 8 horizontal.

The pps43 is more effective at closer ranges than the mp40. It has worse damage fall-off on top of the slightly increased dispersion and a lot more recoil. Check the effective recoil of the weapons, since the statcard recoil does not take recoil control into account.
With the mp40, you can beat the pps43 by aiming more for the head and you can fire in longer bursts at range than with the pps43.

A comparison of research needed to obtain the gun would be more baretta M38A or MP 3008.

What about letting riflemen use k98 with zf4 and caracano with 1.5x

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That would require the devs to make a proper attachment system

and that is imposable of course

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