This is true but some people love number crunching (ergo less damage for semis) sometimes it makes sense sometimes its silly, I play custom games and they are often more fun than squads because of this issue. unfortunately I love BR 4 and the Winchester 1886… so IDK there should be a more serious realistic mode or something. If anything it would be best to buff the mp 40 (keep it BR 2) so it is a bit more playable at BR3, honest though luck and who you are against often matter more than arbitrary stats I can still do well with a br 1 smg like the stem mk3 or a 1911 at br 3.
Okay, based on Erica observations and analysis, perhaps the Italian armored vehicles and the German anti-aircraft trucks will be the reward vehicles for some event in the next one.
The MP-35/1 was a weapon adopted by the Waffen-SS in the early stages of the war and remained in use until 1944. While German troops also used submachine guns captured from other countries, albeit in limited numbers, this doesn’t mean they weren’t used. Based on Enlisted’s historical battles, the units using these foreign weapons demonstrate a high degree of historical accuracy in WWII depiction. If it were only MP-40 submachine guns, I believe it would be too monotonous and boring. You should thoroughly research WWII history before commenting on Enlisted’s weapon settings, because a minority doesn’t mean they didn’t exist, and captured weapons don’t necessarily have to be German-made. Being too biased is unacceptable, as this is also a key characteristic of Enlisted.
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No one is stopping you from using MP40 in BR3.
Besides, your claims are just non sense.
Most common US submachine gun of the war was the M1A1 Thompson which also happens to be BR2.
used in by German troops in the tens thousands…
Nothing wrong here at all.
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I hope that atlest one is gonna be tt, similar to the American half-track AA one
Pretty sure this gun being added was revealed in the hidden threat update:
Although most likely it’s just a coincidence that the promo art team put the kp31 in the image.
I think it was to promote the flamethrower version tbh
These reward vehicles might appear in some future event, but for now they’re just gathering dust in the editor because many mods are only for viewing and not for use, let alone copying and moving them into the tech tree.
The KP31 in the image doesn’t have the flamethrower attachment, also the soilder doesn’t have a fuel tank.
This is no coincidence. You must understand that when three coincidences occur simultaneously, it often foreshadows a major update in a future version.
I hope that it’s the Italian one.
They will all come eventually; it’s just a matter of time.
I can see, but they’re dressed in that squad’s default uniform.
No there are no practical reasons, only arbitrary ones from the side of the Developers.
Now take a few steps back and think about Enlisted versus the upcoming Brass Rain.
When Brass Rain is released it will be a direct competitor to Enlisted.
Unlike Enlisted, Brass Rain will focus on supplying only authentic WW2 equipment in game, and not all the silly fantasy prototype and post WW2 stuff that Enlisted has added the past few years to their BR tech tree and as premium and event units.
It would be SMART if Enlisted would make BR 3 fully the authentic WW2 equipment experience in order to keep that part of the player base that want a WW2 experience with the weapons that were produced and used in large numbers in WW2. Part of that is having some of the key WW2 weapons all in BR 3, such as the MP 40 for example.
If Brass Rain offers the better WW2 experience in terms of authenticity then I will not be the only one to abandon Enlisted with its increasingly fantasy line up.
Fewer players in Enlisted is not good for the future of Enlisted.
No these three were not used in the “tens of thousands” by German front-line troops. Do your research before you claim nonsensical things like that.
For your information the German government has made available online the WW2 monthly reports of German combat formations which list in great detail the number and type of equipment they had.
As for the Thompson it is there at BR 2, 3, 4 and 6 last time I checked. So a player can equip one at each of those BR levels. Something that cannot be done for the MP 38 and MP 40 which are both stuck at BR 2.
Mind you, you can also make a suggestion to alter the current data of the M1A1 Thompson to have it at BR 3.
Like I stated earlier Brass Rain will be released and that game will focus on supplying authentic equipment to the players for an authentic WW2 experience. If the Enlisted Developers want to keep the players that are interested in having an authentic WW2 equipment experience at BR 3 in their game then they better implement changes to at least let BR 3 supply authentic WW2 equipment to the players which was produced and used in huge numbers by the actual front-line combat troops in WW2.
If Brass Rain offers the better WW2 experience in terms of authenticity then I will not be the only one to abandon Enlisted with its increasingly fantasy line up.
Fewer players in Enlisted is not good for the future of Enlisted.
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You should thoroughly research WW2 history because you are misinformed.
For your information the German government has made available online the WW2 monthly reports of German combat formations which list in great detail the number and type of equipment they had.
You should consult that data before making your unfounded claims.
Go ahead, consult them and do some research. You will find that not only was the MP 35/I produced in small numbers but it also was not issued to first line front-line combat troops and certainly not used by them up till 1944.
Go ahead and search for primary source data that the front-line combat units of the Waffen SS used the MP 35/I instead of the MP 38/40 in front-line combat from the early stages of the war up till 1944. It does not exist. Their main MP was the MP 38 and MP 40 and from late 1943 on they were also supplied with the MKb 42, MP 43/1, MP 43, MP 44 and StG 44 in addition to the MP 38/40.
Weapons that were not mass produced, like the MP 35/I, were typically supplied to support and rear echelon formations and not to first line front-line combat troops.
And you are wrong: German troops did use captured enemy weapons in huge numbers BUT these weapons were as a rule of thumb NOT issued to first line front-line combat troops for several obvious reasons, such as limited supplies of spare parts and limited ammunition for captured enemy weapons.
You might find it “monotonous and boring” to have first line front-line combat troops equipped only with the MP 40, there is a however a good reason why this was so in reality: standardization.
Like I stated earlier Brass Rain will be released and that game will focus on supplying authentic equipment to the players for an authentic WW2 experience. If the Enlisted Developers want to keep the players that are interested in having an authentic WW2 equipment experience at BR 3 in their game then they better implement changes to at least let BR 3 supply authentic WW2 equipment to the players which was produced and used in huge numbers by the actual front-line combat troops in WW2.
If Brass Rain offers the better WW2 experience in terms of authenticity then I will not be the only one to abandon Enlisted with its increasingly fantasy line up.
Fewer players in Enlisted is not good for the future of Enlisted.
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I see your point but IMO it would be better to have a ‘realistic’ squads mode so there is something to cater to people who care a lot about history or have a more serious experience. Personally I find it fun to be able to use weird prototype weapons and old pre war weapons like a Winchester 1886 or 1907, but I must admit that it can be a little tiresome to have prototypes as the meta choice in the kill feed (that don’t always make sense). I’m not going to be playing brass rain any time soon (min requirements) but I understand. at the end of the day while it’s not ideal you can still use an mp 40 at br 2,3,4 & 5 if you like but it isn’t meta and if you chose to use it for historical reasons I respect that. IF it needed a buff I would prefer horizontal recoil buff and less damage drop off not higher damage because its 9mm parabellum and should be the same/similar to other 9mm weapons in game. If I were in your shoes which I’m not, I’m a US main I would use the mp 40 anyway. There are other reasons to play enlisted too like vehicles so I wish you peace of mind and if you need to play Brass Rain so be it, kind regards. 
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I agree.
A long time ago on this forum I proposed to have BR ratings for year of introduction (so 1939, 1940, 1941, 1942, 1943, 1944, 1945 and “P” for Prototype+Fantasy) instead of BR 1 to 5. A game does not need to be setup to only please one type of player. I understand that there are players that would prefer Prototype+Fantasy and that is ok, it is just sad that Enlisted is going the same route that games like World of Warships etc. have also done by going from authenticity to prototypes/fantasy and more or less forcing all players to go along with that.
When Enlisted was started it was supposed to be and remain authentic. If that would not have been how it was marketed then I would never have started playing it. I prefer authenticity in a WW2 game over prototype+fantasy.
One of the reasons for going from authenticity to prototypes/fantasy is that currently all that Enlisted, and other games like it, have to offer is “more” weapons/vehicles/aircraft. And after the ones that really made their mark in history have already been introduced in the game (for example the MP 40) then the only thing left to add in the end is prototypes/fantasy. And to make matters worse the prototypes/fantasy ones need to be better than the ones already in the game because otherwise what would be the point for players to unlock/buy them and use them in-game?
If I have the time for it I will write a proposal for another type of “unlock” path that I have in mind, which no longer is focused on “more” weapons/vehicles/aircraft but on something else instead. What I am thinking of, to my knowledge, has up till now not been done in any other game, even though it would be quite unique. To put that proposal in writing will take time, and if I get around to it I will post it here.
In the meantime I hope that at least BR 3 will remain the most authentic BR in Enlisted. BR 3 being the only BR that is fairly authentic currently in Enlisted. For the time being my BR 3 German setup does include the MP 40, but like I wrote earlier that is a handicap inflicted by me on the other players on the German side in a match. I prefer instead that the Developers have the common sense to simply change the data of the current MP 40 to that of the current MP 35/I and vice versa, because that would be the best solution to have a reasonably authentic mass-issued Machine Pistol setup at BR 3 for the USA, Russia and Germany.
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in response to this long-going debate, I have created a video in response suggesting a new event order store which could solve this and reach a fair compromise:
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Just finished watching, was a bit of a drag but I got through to the end.
My counter argument though is as a new player, their whole priority should be unlocking what’s in the tech tree first.The tech tree should always be a new player’s no.1 priority before they even consider past event squads and what they have missed.
Secondly, i don’t think you mentioned the silver loot boxes in your video. Those are there to give players a chance of getting those old rewards. Keeping in mind that the less squads you have, the larger pool of squads you have to win from. This however should always be a late game decision after the player has finished their tech trees. I understand things like the BR 1 AA truck are essentially useless after unlocking everything, but having a BR lineup for every BR allows you to use old event gear and keeps the game fun instead of just sitting in a single BR.
If you are a faction main, you’re only inviting yourself for disappointment. Even if you don’t like the other factions you should at least play the others and finish the tech trees. Purely because it adds gameplay hours and allows you to use the event/BP equipment you have earned. But by all means play a single faction but you’re only going to be disappointed every time the other factions receive content.
I don’t think any player is actively gate keeping content and if you’re referring to the Stalingrad pack, the circumstances are different and the players paid for a product that they then had changed and altered against their will. So compensation for a paid product isn’t gate keeping.
Overall I agree with some points but not with an event store. Events like the most recent one where we had a choice of 6 weapons to chose from should be the proper format for minor events and they should be held frequently (every weekend imo). A rotation like this would be better than a store so that certain mains can’t just fill their whole loadouts with overpowered gear. I would literally just buy all stingers if they were permanently in a store. Missed event and old battlepass weapons are constantly returning in major events (see the current D-day event). Events should be the source for new players. As for squads, the silver boxes but only after finishing their tech trees.
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