We have Helpers, how about we get Balancing Moderators?

[Overlander57]

@Stein_Grenadier

You may think it’s a bad thing, but the reality is that the common player neither knows nor cares about the nitty gritty details that make their game tic,

I’m going to take a leap and assume that you don’t consider yourself among the “commoners” who just don’t understand the game well enough for their opinions to matter. In fact I’d venture to guess that every criteria you gave just happens to fit you yourself.

I could further assume that this whole idea is basically saying that you’re opinion of balance should be considered the correct one, and you and those you consider worthy should be the ones the devs listen to.

That’s just the kind of elitism I’d like to avoid. If somebody plays the game their opinion should have the same weight as anyone else. The more ideas the better, good and bad alike. Those opinions should be considered by the devs, and they should make the final call as to how their game is balanced.

[Shiivex]

No, not at all I just have to pick my words carefully, I can’t display myself on a negative image for others to pick and follow, since I m part of a team that is part of a company. Like here, and on any job I can talk what ever I wanna talk, Because my opinion, is always mine and will always come from me. I just hope you consider, that if I, or anyone display a bad behavior, others might follow. Isn’t hard for me to type nice and still share my point of view on a subject. I still can look into a topic and after read disagree with it, but I can’t go nuts around it got obvious reasons x)… But, above all, I intend to share a nice image, since it’s important for players to feel they are on a place they can share,submit ideas, discussions, issues and so on.

On groups of private discords, or player groups I play with i m Totaly diferent, but, there is a time and a place for everything

But in a side note, I always was and, o still am very positive in enlisted development. You might follow some of my past on the forum I rarely went of my usuall, and always pointed updates or ideas that went live because of our suggestions.

For example, I pushed engineers on old premium squads every devlog I saw back then, untill it was finnaly live into the game. And as a player I still think, Vg1. 5 could and should be a trooper weapon for example.

Tldr I m a player too, but, I also part of a team for a company, i must stay polite not because anyone asked me to, but by my own decision since I feel it’s better for everyone.

[GuardianReaper0]

@Shiivex

It’s a fair point you bring into this discussion, but a player is a player. A issue is a issue at the end of the day.

Same as a suggestion. All must be considered if, our objective is to trully make the game better.

That’s where a good chunk of my concern is though. I know those of us that play on console would like to have a say, but with test servers only being allowed to PC and a lot of PC members being toxic toward console players when we ask for some balancing mechanics (As the game plays a bit different on console), it often seems like that is not the case.

Even PUBG for example released a test server that could be accessed on console. I know that it would cost devs a bit and that goes against the bottom line however.

That is why that I suggested a dedicated section:

@GuardianReaper0

------>It can be done right here on the forums, split as another tab like “suggestions, mess room, news, etc”.
Those that have shown they are capable of holding good conversations about balancing, WITHOUT ANY KIND OF TROLLING, would be added to the list and be able to participate in the discussions.
MEANWHILE those that are NOT on that list can still READ the discussions, and add “likes” to comments, but cannot post themselves.

[Stein_Grenadier]

@Overlander57

If somebody plays the game their opinion should have the same weight as anyone else.

That’s the thing with balancing concerns. It necessitates game knowledge. It’s one thing to suggest adding features or new content, it’s another to look at things as they presently are and try to make sense of it.

@Overlander57

I’m going to take a leap and assume that you don’t consider yourself among the “commoners” who just don’t understand the game well enough for their opinions to matter.

It’s uh… Not exactly a leap given my post history from about 2 years ago.

Player stats are out. Can we disqualify opinions from bad players now?

This is going to be the start of a lovely “Show your stats” forum cycle. You can’t comment on the balance of x until you have a player card to prove that: You actually played the campaign You have a sufficient amount of levels/battle time in said campaign, ideally, in both factions You have the stats to prove you’re not some incompetent player with a persecution complex

Though, I am perfectly average in practice, with plenty better not being as vocal on the forums.

[GeneralBrus]

good ideas here mate, yet

@Stein_Grenadier

That they’ve made made several purchases of premium currency or items from the gaijin store

→ that seems like an incredibly bad idea…

[Stein_Grenadier]

@GeneralBrus

→ that seems like an incredibly bad idea…

Explain why it would be to have that requirement.

[TovarishToNy]

I do think this promotes much worse elitism than we have now like Germany players constantly complain about Soviet weapons in Moscow all the time. Or those who defend the stacking of Berlin Axis with reasons like Soviets have good guns or something when the problem is actually the playerbase turning campaigns like Berlin and Tunisia into bot farms.

[GeneralBrus]

Pay to win feedback

[Stein_Grenadier]

Premium squads aren’t pay to win though. They have smaller soldier counts and usually have gear that is worse than what you can already unlock in campaigns.

[TovarishToNy]

Many of the premium squads are victims of power creep especially vehicles yes but there are vehicles like Calliope and Sherman Firefly that can be a game changer depending if Germans have Tigers or just Pumas.

Sure a Moscow German player can spam panzers with the premium stuff they have + the tech tree but those are rare and even worse being a liability to the team especially if Soviets have capable tankers even more with T-34s.

Also Paratrooper squads mostly behind a paywall or have to play insanely long events with time gated rewards. Normandy has the worst of the paratroopers where a 4 stack with paratroopers can just drop on the objective then clear every defender then spawn another paratrooper squad on the next point with the possibility to put 2 paratrooper squads in the lineup.