Unfair gameplay, no proper matchmaking

This game needs some form of reasonable matchmaking
And NO, I don’t mean “strict” SBMM where you only see players of same skill level…there simply arent enough players towards the high end to make that work

But it would make it a long way to have most matches be at least playable when both teams have at least few people with roughly similar gear, experience and playstyle

I’ve generally reached Enlistegnment because I play alone with random factions on majority of the time and I’m completely aware there is only so much one player can do…and generally at best I get resigned lol…but last time I played I was THE ONLY guy with engineering points on the whole fucking team, the match was fully winnable if ONE of my teammates just built a 2nd rally on the other flank, I tell them that…and a dipstick who sat in a grayzone puma the whole fucking match not really doing anything of value says “be the change you want to see in the world” and I thought I was going to bite through my new metal chassis keyboard

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That’s the problem.
It have to be fix, not pretend this is normal.

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I think the quality of the general playerbase is just so low that no MM can fix that other than making full stack tryhards on both side face each other.

The avg player doesn even know what he is doing on the map.
-They dont even know what a rally is
-They seem to not even understand whats the objective of the gamemode
-They camp and being useless or waste tickets like hell in frontal assault

No MM can balance this kind of skillgap between the botton 70% and the top 30% , one gets kills in the 100+ the other can barely get 10+.

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fair enough

Incorrect. Clearly you ain’t got a clue what you’re talking about

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Eh, I’ve seen plenty of matches where a dude with crappy starter bolties fights BR5 stack just because he has a single BR3 weapon/vehicle/squad/whetever

Ouch! I think I would have lost it at that point :wink:

That’s a player issue. II does not matchmake to IV

Sadly, my experience is that only veterans have meta max upgraded weapons of the same BR as they are playing while most players have unmaxed weapons and about half of the players only have a dozen weapons of the same BR as they are playing.

So ultimately veterans have both better weapons, more experience and usually more skill.

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Make sure your teammates have an IQ at least half of yours or the same as 90% of the opposing players
If the conditions are not met
Please keep exiting until you find it.

Finding cover X
Build spawn point X
Destroy enemy vehicles X

Walk up to the enemy in a straight line without any defense and then be shot by the enemy O
Keep crying and smearing others until DF weakens the IQ test device O

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I think it wouldn’t be too hard for new players to get 3 squads heavily equipped with automatic weapons at level 2.

No experience is required to read maps
All you need is a pair of eyes that can see the direction of the arrow
After playing 2 or 3 games, you will be familiar with the basic terrain utilization.

I don’t think this game requires much (skill)
At least it’s not really necessary now.
Everything is currently developing towards a living environment that is more suitable for idiots.
You just need to use your brain to easily become the top 3

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Wait you guys actually upgrade your stuff? Lol. I’ll upgrade a random thing once in a blue moon

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Is just a few coins, don’t be poor.

Oh I have 187k Silver. I just neglect them

Only recently i started to upgrade my guns and i went from over 100k to 0
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And i havent even upgraded half of my guns

Besides crappy DF Bots, this is my biggest complaint about the game is people who don’t seem to try and capture or defend cap points. I get so pissed off at other teammates that I have used every American curse word I know, and made up a few recently, as my girlfriend who has to listen to my mouth can attest. :innocent:

There are games where I am the only one defending a cap point, and getting blasted and killed by a tank hiding in the greyzone blasting away at the cap point. So, I will jump in my dive bomber to address the tank and while I do, the cap point falls immediately. I get the tank, but since I had no one helping, it really didn’t matter other then adding one more tank kill to my overall tally.

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Yesss
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The truth! You see it!
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I’ve gotten jaded enough to start blaming systems not the people. Yes, at the end of the day people should know the rules. But the whole Tier/BR nonsense is completely confusing, the matchmaking isn’t actually explained properly anywhere…and let’s be honest…lots of people ruin their ACTUAL IRL LIVES because they don’t know the rules

At the end of the day it’s in devmans interest to improve the matchmaking. It’s one of the most consistent complaints around, people regularly even post stupid bug reports about it (which is wrong and stupid…but the problem is real). This game is the best damn FPS experience I’ve ever had WHEN THE MATCHES ARE WELL BALANCED
Sadly, even being generous…80% of the matches are awful. There are days or weeks when I do not get a hype match AT ALL.

A friend I known for a while, who tried the game after finding my stream on one of the good days actually played with me then on his own for a while…then stopped and said he’s just not interested because most matches are so stompy…or he gets 4x the 2nd teammate score and stil loses and it’s just not fun.
And I can’t blame him. I’m just too addicted to the hype matches…and the really bad ones I’ll just take a plane and literally try strafing infantry until it’s over.

Back to the “it’s skill issue”. At the end of the day it doesn’t matter. Players are how they are. It’s on the devmans to make sure the game functions better. They can’t really force players to change.

  • It would go a LONG way just making sure 3 and 4-stacks can’t queue for a single faction at all…so far it was almost guaranteed that any time I’d see a big stack…my team would also either be complete bots or bot equivalents with no gear whatsoever. They can just 4-stack, pick a faction, wait a minute or two and get a match with basically anyone unlucky to be caught into it (since the wait time is artifically capped)
  • at least some rough estimation of lineup strength - someone with starter bolties and ONE M1 Garand is eligible to end up in BR5 battle and that should not change, but they should be valued as less than a guy with 10 slots filled with fully upgraded meta lineup
  • at least some rough estimation of player skill - the currently existing player ranks are halfway there (yes, I know you can just go play Japan only for 3 days and be a Marshall…but at least that shows you are sentient enough to understand how to do it lol)
    It doesn’t have to be mathematically perfect or provably correct. Any improvement from the current situation would be…and improvement. One thing is it shouldn’t be done as things currently happen…come out of the blue 2 years after everyone started demanding it then go back into hiding. This would need iterative work on the estimations

It doesn’t have to balance the gap.
It has to make sure it’s not top 30% vs bottom 70%.
Making sure both teams have a few good players and a few minimally competent and that the gear isn’t completely lopsided would go a long way, because currently it’s often good players on one side and complete hopeless cases on the other

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Yeah see I just kinda…don’t. Every so often I’ll upgrade a couple, but I still have less than half of all the guns in all 3 load outs leveled up

I can drive with my tank to the bomb, plenty of time to get out, set the bomb and safely return to an undamaged tank. No enemy to be seen. No teammates to be seen… And this is a war game?