This patch made a long-distance battle into a random game like xcom, not fps.
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And this spread happens, when u have the perk, -25% spread etc?, just asking.
Yup.
not trying to be a pain, only learning myself, what about the holding breath, perk, and was he using, the button to hold his breath also?, when he got that result.
it would make sense for the m1 carbine to have this mush spread seeing as it fire what was basically a rilfe sized 9mm round
i tested this with fully upgraded fg42 2, proned, mounted and holding breath
see the result
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Yea, i would say the bullet spread is a bit silly. First shot spread should happen occasionally, not with almost every first shot, and semi auto should have almost NO SPREAD as it is controlled fire.
The way that spread is supposed to work is the FASTER you fire the more inaccurate your fire should be. And that makes sense. This kind of spread MIGHT be ok for semi auto fire that is rapid, but not controlled.
They should adjust the spread to be based on time between weapon discharge. Something like less than 4 seconds between shots begins to cause bullet spread. As it is now it is almost comedic.
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Totally Agree. Bullet spread makes automatic weapons shitty.
At least devs should copy Battlefield 1 way: every first shots go directly.
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The developers don’t like the possibility of a bullet hitting the enemy.
More deaths due to the accidental "I definitely shot right at him and didn’t hit him.
The game plays you, not you in the game
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I totally agree with you. Guns are not sprays. Random spreads should be reduced or eliminated.
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I wish they added some physics to weapons instead of a random generator. So if you turn with a heavy gun, it feels heavy and is slow to settle on the new target with visible control issues (turning too much then back), if you run with it it wobbles visibly and not just sprays around. And thus if you are good at compensating all these random but visible effects, you’re better at using LMGs.
For those who ever shot with SMG/LMG in reality: are they precise when used in single shot mode or is this first shot spread based on reality? For example I was quite happy with the Madsen single shot one hit kill mode, but now it feels crap and I don’t suppose they’d still use a pre-WWI weapon in 21st century if it is crap to aim with.
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This change is just dog shit, plain and simple. Not to mention the bullet dispersion change for LMG’s. Slowly losing interest in this game with these weird changes, especially when there are better alternatives to downright nerfing stuff.
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Ironically, that is how real guns do work a lot of the time. Where your first ‘cold’ shot varies from all subsequent follow up shots. Not to say they go sideways, but its a real life mechanic.
So it’s not just some random nonsense, but something that may happen in reality. Much easier to accept if it’s so. 
Do you have some idea how slowly does it cool down, after what amount of time is a shot considered “first shot” again?
I think your shooting skills are not good or you’ve never really shot a gun before
Guns and bullets belong to the macroscopic world and follow laws of physics, not quantum mechanics
If you aim at the same place, bullets basically fly to similar places
I also don’t think bullets should always penetrate the same point, but the current method is excessive, unrealistic, and does not provide a good experience.
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Have you ever shot a gun? When you pull the trigger, the bullet doesn’t spread that much unless you put too much force on it.
Especially, it’s strange that it spreads like that in semi-automatic shooting, not automatic shooting.
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man, i serviced in korean army for 1.5 year and i never experienced such mechanic
bullets just goes where i aim, not spread out like this
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This is not realistic fire, not by a longshot…but to be honest it wasn’t before this change either.
It would probably be somewhere inbetween. LMGs are more like IRL, at least the full auto LMGs seem to act more like a SAW (the weapon I am familiar with)
However, semi-auto, especially with the Garand (which I have also been lucky enough to fire) is nowhere near accurate. It was closer before, but it was frankly TOO accurate before. The Garand is smooth and on target as long as it is battlesight zeroed AND you put 2 or more seconds between each shot.
4 inch shot group, unsupported at 50m. 10-12 inch group at 100m.
Push fire shy of 2 seconds, and the faster you fire the more the shot group grows.
Firing a full clip as fast as I can, I hit 1 out of 7 (left it one round shy, as the mechanism was pretty old) at 50m.
That is how a semi works in the real world.
Can you tell how does an LMG’s first aimed shot compare to e.g. Garand? With precise aiming, is it similarly precise, so can you deal a targeted single shot, or it has so much different setup that it’s not precise even then? (In reality.)
If you want to bring up IRL, it don’t work that way. First shot doesn’t deviate that much unless you have a really worn out barrel, have just forced cleaning rods and oil through it, or have a round from a different ammo load.
What’s in game is rng.
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