18/15/18 would still be 17/14/17 which does not add up. I do humbly request a screenshot because there must be a misunderstanding somewhere.
1 Like
Does anybody know the bonuses/alterations for every class?
Itās fairly possible, I apologize for that. Running around doing multiple things right before a meeting is always a bad idea if number crunching is involved. I will try to find my āshmuckā back when home.
If anything, I hope Iām wrong and you are right, because it would greatly simplify things.
I believe itās a mix of both at first glance though. What we didnāt think about (if Iām wrong with my numbers from memory) is that each class has a HARD CAP at max star lvl, such as the 17/17/17 trooper 1. Having such it will ofc SEEMS like the stats are distributed evenly, while in fact they simply canāt go over the max hard cap.
A not perfect soldier will see itās stat distributed randomly at 5 stars (provided itās not breaking the cap) so a 4/5/5 might end up 17/17/16 to simplify.
Ahah Iām excited to find out tonight! I hope I was wrong and you were correct with numbers! See you soon.
This is correct as I showed in my reply earlier.
Let me know what you find out tonight 
and goodluck with the meeting.
1 Like
Speed / Vitality / weapon handeling
Sniper I 2/-2/3
Sniper II 2/-2/4
Sniper III 2/-2/6
Rifleman I 1/1/1
Rifleman II 2/2/2
Rifleman III 3/3/3
Assaulter I 2/0/1
Assaulter II 3/1/2
Assaulter III 4/2/3
Tanker I 3/-2/2
Tanker II 5/-2/3
Tanker III 7/-2/4
Fighter Pilot I 0/2/1
Fighter Pilot II 1/3/2
Engineer I 1/2/0
Engineer II 2/4/0
AT Gunner I -2/2/3
AT Gunner II -2/4/4
Radio Operator I 5/0/-2
Radio Operator II 6/2/-2
Flame Trooper I 2/5/-1
Flame Trooper II 2/7/0
Mortarman I -1/2/2
Attacker Pilot I 0/1/2
Attacker Pilot II 1/2/3
Machine Gunner I 0/0/3
Machine Gunner II 0/0/6
Rider I 2/0/4
This should be all. Keep in mind premium squads got different alterations.
1 Like
Fantastic!
Itās weird to say but Iām happy I was mistaken in my numbers. (The schmuck I referred to wasnāt a trooper 1)
After looking at all my actual troopers 1 who reached 5 stars, I confirm NONE cand have an attribute over 17ā¦ wich means thereās indeed an hard cap at 5 stars and as such itās possible to predict easily the final result a soldier will have!
Iām quite happy about this, I wasnāt aware of the maximum hard cap. Makes my life MUCH easier!
N.i.C.E Job this should be done 
@38733216 Shouldnt this be a perfect rolled soldier:
but wasnt.
@Conscript_Joe all soldiers will end 16/16/16 . then you sum or subtract the following numbers
and you will always know if the soldier will end 16/16/16 atleast or not.
Did you check what perkpoint it had before upgrading? this one is a 14/14/15 soldier not a 16/16/16. so it is a -2/-2/-1 which fits in range it can have.
1 Like
All soldiers wonāt end 16/16/16, regardless of the class bonuses. A new bough soldier starts out with random stats.
If what you said were true, all troopers 1 would end up 17/17/17 because you add +1 to all attributes.
Trust me, @38733216 and I crunched those numbers all day 
Or perhaps what you meant was that itās possible to deduct base and predict the final 5 stars outcome stats by sbstracting class bonuses and adding class negatives, in wich case, yes.
After all, isnāt it just Luck?
Importants Thing is, low Silver Orders, low Bronze Orders, Hard Times.
So it would be nice to know at LVL1 of a Soldiers, is it worth it or not, to upgrade till LVL5.
especially for Poor and new Players as well as >Megalomaniacs< (thank you Google)
My Problem is Right Noooowwwwā¦
All Squads filled with Lvl5 Soldiers and lvl 5 soldiers on the waiting bench.
i only got 20 Soldier Silver Orders left and dont want waste it.
My Bronze Troop Orders by 1. As Soon as i have some they will be Gone.
If you have the Numbers of the Perks in mind, you donāt always have to reach the full Level. 16 Reds are enough for Vitality.
When filling up the Allied Armies, I noticed that and took it into Account.
Individual Training Points are often enough and you can save 20+/- Tickets and still get 12% shot Rate Bolt Action and 12% Firearm Reload Speed - 20 Yellow Points are enough for that, you donāt need the 22 or 23 or 24 Points that you get when LVL5 is activated automatically
My Tipp:
I had soldiers who wanted 72 bronze orders.
When I distributed the Orders one by one, I reached my Perk Goals in advance and would have paid 20 Orders for nothing.
Only the Right to Choose, the Left wastes too much.
1 Like
Correct, Though this is not always as easy to achieve. To guarantee it you will need +2 vitality for a soldier or must have at least 2 points above minimal skillpoints and be lucky it lands on vitality if there is +0 to vitality.
4 perks are often enough to get the job done, but reaching 20 weapon handling is not easy. It requires at least +4 for it or +6 to guarantee it. So none of your Rifleman, Engineers and Radio Operators can have it. So that combo only works for Snipers and AT gunners. Only sniper 3 got +6 so far. (machine gunner II too but we do not use bolt actions on them now or do we girls?)
It works for the 2 Tunisia Premium Bolt Action Squads, and if you do it like i say,
You cansafe 20 Cards each Soldierā¦ 9 are in One Squad.
1 Like
All premium squads got their own bonus perks. Which is -3/6/6 for them so, yes just gotta roll 4 more points on weapon handling and exchange melee damage till you get reload speed. I agree, It is better than spending 648 bronze orders.
1 Like
Thats what a Newbie would Ruin with that New System.
Am I the only one who donāt care at all how many points and where my troopers have?
- TTK is so short no matter how much life soldier has
- AI is controling all but one of the toons in the squad and is prone to run into open and get killed
- one less reason to get pissed by RNG
- no stats will replace using brain and imagination
- no stats will help you when you are on receiving end of player better than you
Really depends on what you want to do. Like I do not have all perfect soldiers either. Most are not. Just knowing how this works should reduce the disappointment if you got a build in mind and you will know if it is even possible before trying.
Besides first gotta learn what they want to do with veteran perks before investing all your hard earned silver and bronze.
Okayā¦
Then ā¦
show me your E-P3Ni5 Statsā¦
and i betā¦
No No Just do what make Fun.
@8777537 you contradict yourself
Talk about having brains, but ignore 35% more health.
It takes a lot of experience to master commanding troop members. You can give them orders where to go and you can get 50m away from them. You have to use that.
And Talk about Stats without Posting itā¦ well ā¦
All About This.
Im not talking about my personal stats, but what the individual troopers have. You will not involve me in ācompare your ding dongā competition.
Mine is Bigger i just say it.