I also hate artillery support, this game has too much artillery support, because as long as there are enough players, you can achieve infinite call bombardment.
I want to think of artillery support as a tool to assist the player’s attack, not a shortcut to gain experience away from the front line.
Many times I have to need it to help me do some things, such as preventing the enemy from returning to the defense, clearing the spawn point, suppressing the enemy in the wild, so I usually have a messenger in the infantry squad.
I also know that aircraft or tanks can do this, but considering the timeliness, aircraft and tanks may be slower than artillery support, and you need to choose it at the next resurrection.
I wouldn’t kill myself to do this, it’s probably faster and better to just call in artillery support, it just annoys me that they keep being occupied
For artillery support, I appreciate the design of Battlefield and Red Orchestra 2
Only the squad leader can call artillery support, not all players have the right to call, and experienced players can use it better.
You just answered Your own problem, it’s too easy and convinient, literally one button press, so it always be spammed.
If You limit it even more, it just leads to it being spammed less in bot matches, but regular 10v10 sweat games will reamain the same with constant artillery spam.
It will only ruin radio squad even more in most matches that are 80% bot filled, it won’t change shit when it comes to matches that have full human squads (most games should be like that anyway)
how do you decide who gets to use it?
I agree that the method of calling artillery support in this game is too simple, as if there are satellite-guided artillery, it should not be used in a way beyond visual range, nor should it be abused.
This game should make artillery support more tactical and difficult
Players with high scores have the right to use it. Usually, players with high scores are more experienced. Maybe the player with the first score should be automatically promoted to the team leader and get some special permissions.
In addition, I think the point system can also be referred to. Players accumulate points in battle, and calling artillery support will consume them to prevent abuse
I think a points threshold would be better, would also give more people the chance to use it
in your idea do you still need radio squads to call it?
If You have some ideas for that, or they can rework it somehow i would not mind. I just don’t see any way that would make radio squad worth taking.
We have tactical artillery in form of smoke, yet it’s barely used as it gives 0 score and shares the cooldown with all other artillery types. So yeah it’s not working great right now
Maybe reduce artillery call to 1 per radiomen for match?
Then what’s the point of taking radio squad for any f2p guy/
He get 3 squad slots.
And choose 1 squad that get one artillery use and then squad is just useless, or take radio in other squad and cooldown doesn’t even matter.
Or do You mean 1 per radio operator soldier, in which case i would change nothing still, because you have to wipe radio squad right now to reset 8 min airstrike timer down to 4
Soul Balance Issue
I mean 1 per radio operator per match.
I came up with even better solution: you have 1 call on each radio operator at the start, but to get another one after use you need to kill 3 people with this radio operator.
I don’t think it is necessary, you need to use the binoculars directly to provide coordinates for the artillery.
Professional messenger squads should be more inclined to team assistance, such as calling for smoke bomb mortar support, airdropping supplies, reconnaissance aircraft, etc.
That’s sounds cool
Kinda meh, just drop sniper rifle from sniper in squad, kill 3 bots and back to spamming artillery.
You seem to be trying to find solution based on assuming that artillery is spammed by dude sitting in attic all game and just pressing 5, but he has 2x cooldown so it’s not the case.
In normal 10v10 matches this would change nothing
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I’ve asked a million times to need something like this, instead of mindlessly nerfing and removing things
They just need to convert in-game points into soul balance points that can be spent to do things or deploy units.
Some players just don’t like being restricted, they just want to spam mindlessly, and the end result is that these things are overly weakened or even have some import features be removed.
When abuse is described in the title you’re suggesting, the first thing this development team thinks of is nerfing and removing things. Different· from their CRSED team next door, who can adjust the soul cost to limit how often things appear without reducing the drama of special things appearing in the game, because because the exist of the soul cost, special things can be very powerful, but very Expensive and no one abuses it.
Guess what they do when players cry that a heavy machine gun is too powerful? They “The Enlisted” developers removed the wood penetration ability from all guns.
Well the same thing happens with rifle grenades, AA, aerial bombs, grenades, well maybe the upcoming white phosphorous and Molotov cocktails. There have been many players crying out for various abuses cases.
sad story.
yeah, when i suggest limited tickets for players’ vehicles the most common counter-argument is ‘but what if i run out’ or ‘what if the enemy has better vehicles’
well sucks but you ran out of resources, likely because you didn’t play well, it happens, deal with it accordingly. for the second argument, it’s literally the same outcome as if they have better tanks with the current system, so no change there. but it improves spam
i’ve always suggested the ticket thing as a way to get people to stop suicide bombing, however it could make people grey zone camp more with tanks. Solution to this? At risk of repeating myself… remove or heavily reduce the grey zone.
So I suggest they make a reasonable new game mode for this.
Let those spam pewpewpew explosive players keep repeating in their amusement park, I’m not in the mood to play with them.
Were is this artillery abuse? I see only bomber get spammed with bad result for wo spam them