What is the source of this image?
Are you sure it’s not photoshopped or from 1947?
How many were made? Where are the photos?
For some reason the Kalashnikov Magazine didn’t find anything… Suspicious
Lmao I literally asked this question on the Ru forum. And got no response from anyone.
It’s lost cause.
In fact, Veekay doesn’t even care if the weapon existed or not. He’s only taking advantage of its potential “fakeness” for his real agenda.
Which is to prevent as much prototypes as possible to appear in the game.
Because in his delusion, the only true WW2 content is standard issued equipment. And players simple shouldn’t be allowed to have fun with anything else, because according to him, prototypes are all fake and fantasy just by definiton.
Stop making a hoax. Biggest researchers confirm PPsh BRAMIT. I can ask him directly, its not a problem
Well its hard to explain to some forum creatures that they are not world war 2 weapon experts and weapons are more complicated thing then I just found some old ‘‘secret document’’ that suggest something an it must be so.
Please, I can told it again. The biggest researcher of sovietfireamrs confirm it existis. Whats a problem
Philosophically - yes.
Just because there is no evidence of Nibiru Reptioloids visiting the Earth with Silenced PPSh-41 doesn’t mean it definitely never happened.
But logically we understand that until there is evidence of PPSh 41 with a silencer actually existing, we can’t just “trust me bro”.
If anyone has actual evidence it existed – I’m all ears.
Go ahead then, before writing angry essays lol
Yeah, that’s what I have already said plenty of times.
Just because you give a weapon a statistics based on some historical document it doesn’t mean that weapon will then be historically accurate.
There are plenty of inaccurate historical documents. Quite often they can be biased as well, as those people simply had their own agendas too. Even in documents that supposed to be unbiased.
Plus not all documents have survived.
it’s perfectly easy to just Google up a source somewhere that goes hand in hand with your agenda.
That’s why I don’t mind at all if, for the sake of immersion or interesting gameplay, the devs tweak the stats to be inaccurate to historical sources. Especially when it comes to weapons, which already have incredibly limited sources around them.
I really don’t like it when people, under the pretense of some sort of HA, try to push their interests into the game. But instead of being honest about what their interests are, they’re pretending it’s solely because they care about HA.
The reason why silenced PPSh was not added to the game is because people didn’t want silenced guns be available in the tech tree. Not because Veekay thinks it’s fake.
In fact, our CM already hinted the weapon will return at some point.
Probably as event or BP.
Did dude release picture, though, that showed it was made during WW2?
Im telling you that for some weapons you wont find the evidence since the researchers themselves haven’t found enough evidence and you need to wait more until there is more data on the subject and this takes years its possible you wont be even alive when they find the evidence.
The “dude” is the most famous and reputable researcher of Soviet weapons - most of the edits, and indeed the weapons themselves, are presented here thanks to his research. He confirmed the existence of documents on the testing of PPSH with the BRAMIT system, and wants to publish a research article in the Kalashnikov journal about this. The most important thing is that he confirmed the availability of these drawings, other photos and a test report. That’s what I quoted above. Therefore, please do not spread lies. Information about the existence of BRAMIT PPSH samples has been confirmed as a minimum by two of the most authoritative people in the world of Soviet weapons, one of whom is the designer of these weapons. We also have a photo, although it’s not the only one.
I hope that it starts today at 13 UTC as they are accustomed to - We have lives but i really really love the either 20k per 2 days or 5000 per day rule it’s how Warthunder was before.
To the devs reading this - Never increase the grind i swear people are buying stuff because they have fun and want to support you.
Has he been writing his article for 7 years already since 2017?
But still we haven’t seen those “sikrit dokumints”?
That means those weapons are not confirmed to have existed yet.
Innocent until proven guilty = didn’t exist until proven it existed.
Or should we first add WW2 Nibiru Reptioloids and only after that start looking for evidence?
And?
But didn’t mention a date based on what you showed so far.
Did he publish it, though?
The last picture showed an entry in 2017, and since you didn’t post it, I will guess it’s still not there.
I only asked a question, though, if he published something.
So where is rest?
Also the picture still has no date as of now.
One more time. The information about the existence of these PPSH silensed samples is confirmed by two of the most authoritative people in the field of Soviet small arms. Also there is a photo. Do you have any evidence that he wasn’t there? Maybe a document? So far, 3-0 in favor of its existence, and these are fat arguments. If you have any arguments, specific facts, why it wasn’t there, send them. I won’t juggle with words.
Please dont spread hoax - last time you themself take me an argument of Ruslan Chumak words. Now you talk its not. Well, I quite sure - you dont want a truth - only things that proven you right and others dont. Do not spread lies, please
Well William M.P. Easterly is writing its book Dragons Of Fire since 2008 research takes time. He is releasing some small books to support his big project as you can see this video is 13 years old:
Book Review: Japanese Submachine Guns by William Easterly
And he haven’t release his big project yet.
Once again.
First pictue is a forum entry that does not prove or even say it was made during the Great Patriotic War and that dude will “publish it later”… in 2017.
Second one you posted was about the DP-27.
Third one was just a picture of a gun.
So again, come up with something better. I mean, if dude posted in 2017, he would come up with more. I think he should have had a bit of time to do research. If guy is a researcher, he should have idk… white papers, reports? I doubt all he has is a post from 2017.
Picture without date and such. Might as well be from the late 1940s or 195
0s. Like, even Veekay posted it, so arguments could go either way if only picture is enough.
Yes, because you didn’t provide dates.
Nice to see that you are declaring yourself winner.
I mean no disrespect, but that is clearly not the case.
Just take the recent example: the people you accused as “biased Axis mains” because they want the Scotti Naval´s magazine corrected to its historical 20-25 rounds magazine (there are exactly zero sources for 15 round mags).
Are the same people that want the new short mag Mkb42´s 15 round magazine corrected to 10 rounds because no 15 round StG mags exist.
Like it or not, the majority of Enlisted players (or forum users) want weapons to be as close to their historical characteristics as possible.
Im not sure if you noticed, but the game has been going in the 1:1 direction for the past 3 years.
Every faction must have AR, jet, Tiger II analogue ect…
People want weapons to be HA because thats the last thing holding this game back from becoming an arcade shooter gallery like battlefield games.
So when the research is done and Silenced PPSh is proven to have existed, worked, accepted to service, sent to combat troops – I’ll be the first one to advocate for its addition to the game.
Until the research is complete – it’s only a hypothesis.
