BR V is here for the GE wunderwaffe and Allied prototypes that balance it out. Issue is not the things being here, but them being spammed endlessly. But that is an issue of this game’s unrestricted loadout system.
If you’re looking for realistic squads with real weapon compositions, you’ll have to go look elsewhere. Post scriptum/Squad 44 or Hell Let Loose. I myself am tied to this game as I only have a laptop that can not run those games comfortably, so I am waiting till the hardware market crashes due to AI companies and then I’ll buy a proper PC and probably move on from Enlisted.
ill be sad to see you go
one games like HLL are simulator Enlisted is more arcade
HLL is like Solo a game mode so popular it was deleted
HLL has never been free at least on console
so limited to free arcade squad based games its Enlisted or nothing
HLL is squad based the way cod and battlefield are
i want to control and build my squad not be part of one
yeah may AI go the way VR did
yeah its around but almost no one talks about it
Armaguerra is at least an officially adopted weapon of the Italian army, but production was halted until the war would end, since Italy expected easy and quick victories in 1940.
US has its own fair share of low production weapons that are magically everywhere like Hyde1944, T20, Browning HP…
No player ever asked for this vehicle and Axis players criticized this vehicle since it was added to Moscow. Pz38(t) which was still in use and more common should have been added instead.
the difference is the T20 and Hyde 44 get brought up as fake weapons once a month. Armaguerra is at least an officially adopted weapon of the Italian army,
yes adopted and never used in combat perhaps at best in testing and perhaps training. I am fine with demanding a higher standard, one that is applied to every faction
and the f9 if not a bait post should be, yes the allies are closer than every to being balanced with axis armor. Yes the axis deserves better planes not as good as the allies but better than what they have.
the kiraly 39m is fine over 15k made
but the fg42 1 and 2 are on the fence
500 zh29 is just a joke that is not even funny
not 500 built by germany
not 500 used by germany
500 in total they could have gotten their hands on
look if the community is going to demand a standard it needs to be one that is meaningful. we all know it will never happen but it cant be used as a club. axis usese it to club the us and ussr while ignoring that japan is by far the worse faction for ‘fake’ weapons.
100 or 500 does that sound like tech tree to you, should we include every pistol trophy picked up by every faction. i have no problem with anything and everything having its place in the game. but if we are to demand standard at least in the tech tree it has to mean something.
Király production documents were destroyed, however deployment was tracked and ~58000 guns were delivered to the army and its actually the 43M which is way, way more common. (source the Király submachine gun book by Soós Péter)
dont even recall the last time I seen someone use it though.
It was added to the end of Moscow, Stalingrad and Tunisia campaigns, the long progression requirement at least made them rare, but thats not the point since it was utterly unrealistic.
150 ZH-29s ordered by China, similar amount by Ethiopia, some bought by Siam, probably none was ever used by German soldiers, so much for realism of the campaigns.
Again it was the game devs that thought it would be a splendid idea. Like the SIG KE7 in the Axis tech tree because Ethiopia purchased 150 of them which then got captured by Italy. But I already shared my opinion on that.
is 500 a lot?
For an entire army? No.
For a division? Yes, especially if its not a rifle.
For a small nation with few divisions, reasonable.
So numbers always depend on the context. But since you want to know what is the standard for a weapon to make it into the tech tree, let me answer you: it had to exist.
No use, numbers or reliability requirements. Even if a weapon exploded on the firing trial, it will still be added to the game.
yep, Canada and British commandos, other special forces. Mostly supplied to China.
None to US, still was the best pistol available for US.
FN plant in Belgium produced double of the Canadian production, under the occupation alone while thousands were captured too…
Why isnt it available to Axis tech tree? Should be based on numbers.
i have no problem with any weapon being in the game
we have
tech tree
battle pass
event
and premium there is a place for every gun
ussr has a german pistol i have no problem with germany getting the high power the allies are not lacking for pistols
it had to exist, but not as a tech tree weapon
if it had to be tech tree
so did the t20 and hyde 44
i love enlisted i love prototype weapons
i just would like to see less of a lot of weapons
a lot less fg42s a lot less t20s
they should be like in borderlands or an looter shooter
rare weapons should be rare something special
i just get sick of everyone dog piling the us then the ussr and ignoring japan and germany
germany has the single most complete tech tree in the game
the allies smgs are Thompsosn from br2 to br5
the bar is br3 mgs
id love everyone to get more content
use modders give them better tools
imagine if they acted more like minecraft or other games
i dont want to be angry, i would like fewer fights
i want axis mains not to act like only the ussr exists
i want to nerf the svt 378 and buff the g41
i want world piece and less trump
You have been around since ´23.
You should know by now that devs added guns with reusability in mind.
ZH-29 in Moscow? could also have been added to a campaign with China.
M21/28 Thompson? could go to US, British/Commonwealth, Chinese, French, Greek, Soviet troops…
Not to mention it was barely any work to add after M1928A1 was made.
Kinda like M1 Beretta and Beretta 38/42, I will never understand why a prototype like the M1 Beretta was added, only to add in the progression a 5% different gun 15 lvls later. (back then 38/42 didnt even have 550 rpm)
I unlocked Sten mk.II 3 times, MP40 5 times, K98K with GL 5 times, DP-27 3 times copy paste baby.
At least US had a little variety in Thompsons and BARs being different in campaigns, which heavily back fired now.
well, I did make multiple suggestions on British weapons like Sten mk.V, Lewis gun, Patchett… but all of them are being added as event, even though I did specifically mention that they should be tech tree.
This goes both ways, when was Japanese tanks a concern when discussing US tank BRs?
There will always be people that think things like DP-27 or G43 or AVT-40 or KV-1 (zis-5) should be a BR lower, but even they cant give a proper argument. ( I originally didnt want to name 75% soviet things, but they seem to have the highest share of these kind of lunatics).
The game was never ww2
If it was Germans would be the only ones with assault rifles
The us would get sa a full br before anyone
Soviets would getmore smgs and more sacrifie
Germany get the heaviest tank but fewer slots that the us or ussr
And Japan would be stomped in every battle
Most common axis rifle kar98
Most common us rifle m1 garand
I don’t mind a country having an advantage in mind the having all of them
Wheeraboo wet dream
Axis only gets sf rifles , ar rifles, best mgs and great planes , best at weapons ECT ect and calls it ww2
Sure they would be lacking in Armour as none of the tanks of BR III or above were ever fielded or left the home islands. However US forces in Pacific did not have the same firepower as they had in Europe. The regular weapon was still the Springfield 1903, not the Garand.
And neither did they have the late BR V tanks there, since even Shermans proved difficult to use in amphibious landings and in the Pacific jungles.
So yeah, a difficult match-up but not impossible. Additionally take into account this is Enlisted, that fully endorses CQB in it’s map layout, thus favouring heavily the Auto-meta, unlike other realistic WW2 games where Bolts are many and often stay relevant if not dominant due to the regular range of engagement being at 100 meters or more.
Give them a map with an actual proper layout that does not enforce a 10 meter CP contestation after just a 50 meter run and you’ll be in for a surprise as to how much more flexible the Bolties are against Semis and SMGs.
What good are Semis and SMGs if you barely survive the walk to the CP as your squad gets wiped out by precise shots from an enemy in defensive positions spread across the entire front.
Except they did not, did they?
Look at IRL Okinawa. Those means had little impact on the defences there. Allow the Japanese to dig in the same and you’ll get the same outcome.
Also if we’re going realistic, then friendly fire from such means would be funny to see too. No more HE spamming into CPs contested by allies, unless you want a friendly squad wipe and instant-leave from a match.
Oh yeah, forgot to add
These happened before the battle since Naval bombardment was inaccurate and thus risked friendly fire. And direct CAS wasn’t as common in Pacific as it was in Europe.
Tanks were usually not immediately present on the battlefields of islands, usually they came in later waves so until then, you’re stuck with Marines. And should you want them in the Jungles of Pacific, then prepare to get stuck to main roads covered on all sides by lush jungle, meaning without inf cover, you’d make an easy picking by AT ambushers. - Oh, no grey zones btw. That didn’t exist IRL either, so no more safe camping in an untouchable area.
in real ww2 japan fought from defensive positions
and still often at best inflicted comparative casualties often suffering greater casualties
so what have japan always on the defense
Though a significant part was caused by their suicidal loyalty and will to fight. It’s hard comparing casualties when the enemy fights to the last man regardless if they have weapons, are hurt or have already lost.
I’d say, despite their disadvantages, especially concerning naval/air supremacy and lacking proper late war weapons, they went toe to toe with a better equipped enemy and still often held longer than anyone anticipated.
Not in early war, they were on offense then. In later sure, but even then they did counter-attacks to retake positions, so that still counts as offense. Those counter-attack often being the most loss ratio intensive for the Japs.
I am not saying they lacked for bravery charging with a knife or stick takes more than i or most people have. they also fought disease and starvation with lack of ammo and fuel. but they were fighting a loosing war which is not good for a multiplayer game like enlisted. there weapons became increasingly obsolete, there production capabilites with help from the us air force strained to meet demands. it has made a hell of a lot of fun campaign but the real jp army would not clock out at br3 but br2.
Not unless loadout restrictions were enforced. If I can haul an MG squad with 4 Bars, then yeah, they can’t really answer that, but it’s also not what you’d see realistically. There was 1 Bar per squad if I remember correctly.
The disadvantage can be balanced by map layouts that deny the firepower advantage to flourish, but regardless it would certainly be a match-up, that if won by Japs, would be done via pure skill on player side, while US would have the equipment advantage.
But that is not here nor there. This is Enlisted we’re talking about. Arcade and has not seen historical accuracy let alone realism for quite some time. No reason to dream of things that’ll never happen. Go for HLL or Squad 44 if you have the hardware specs and you want such gameplay.
copy paste baby.