T-34 in Battle of Moscow

The stug 3 b/d and it’s shaped charge shell matched perfectly with its low velocity gun and low profile and was famous for killing more Russian tanks than any other afv.
I hope they add it in given how many they made

We’re going to have a preview of what the T-34 could do with the T-50 anyway

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Do you play tanks yourself? I’ve finished it on German side and half way on Soviet. All tanks besides T-60 die with a single well placed hit from any other tank, besides starter tanks. For what purpose do we need T-34? They could add some intermediate tanks for variety or add something more specialized, like self-propelled artillery pieces, APCs and etc. Something that fits support of the infantry combat, instead of going in War Thunder direction.

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Couldn’t agree more.

Besides T-34 being the iconic tank that participated in the Battle of Moscow, T-34 does fit support for infantry combat besides killing enemy tanks and more suitable than the T-28.

I have driven every Soviet tank in the game where I found myself in a good time with the BT-7 while T-28 is a mixed bag where it can one shot Pz. IIs and at times even Pz IIIs with a good shot but its useless against 38ts and as someone said in the T-28 APHE thread, Pz IVs.

I’m not even asking about the KV-1 or KV-2.

Here you go mate, wrote a whole topic about it:

Read if you are interested.

Was one shot by T-28 in PZ IV multiple times, even T-26 kill them just fine. So why do you need another tank if 2 out of 4 can reliably kill any German tank and 3rd one can with a bit of work?
T-28 even comes with a separate crew, it’s a good anti-infantry tank and you can use it for that.

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I have never killed a Pz4 with a T28, not by 1 shot, not by several.

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I have read your thread. T-34’s disadvantage is that the commander is also the gunner which was only fixed with the T-34-85. T-60’s reload is horrendously slow thus I instantly replaced it with the T-26 once I unlocked it.

Your suggestion regarding spawning tanks, it depends on the mode like invasion or assault should allow attackers to use more tanks but you forgot to mention the issue regarding planes where they can just get away on bombing the entire game all they want.

T-28 can easily oneshot all German tanks from the front at 0° including the 38(t) the armor values are effectively non-existant on all tanks when it comes down to tank to tank combat. The only one that can be kinda tanky is the T-60 for some reason

I wonder if you plkay tanks at all from such a demonstrably falso statement??!

Here’s me vs Pz4 - I get the drop on him at beginning - 2 hits, no significant damage. 1 is a glancing shot, other hits tracks

He backs off so I move up - get a Pz2, unfortunately that means he gets the drop on me and OHK’s me.

Edit - same video uploaded from a different channel

Haven’t we agreed yesterday while discussing 35T that there is something wanky with how shells perform?

And also T26 regularly pens my PZ3E from the front. Which is fine by me, it’s gun should be able to do so.

I wrote:

T-28 can easily oneshot all German tanks from the front at 0

Apart from the Pz IV being angled you did not hit a single proper hit on the Pz IV in your footage and one hit killed the Pz II once you properly hit it.
The first shot was a bounce off at the edge between the front and left side
grafik

The second hit the first wheel of its track at an angle
grafik
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I understand that you don’t have to bother about that when using T-26, but aim at:
driver viewport
turret front, cheeks
turret sides, mid center or parts that are more flat to you
turret back, mid center

What you did say was that there is “effectively” no armor - which is arrant nonsense. If it has to be at 0 degrees then that’s because any angling at all makes it impregnable, and, sadly, most shots are angled to some degree or otehr.

If ther was “effectively” no armour then angling wouldn’t matter - stop posting drivel!

And yes - I said 1 was a glancing shot and the other hit the tracks - well done - you spotted what I had already said - what a genius you are!

No - I didn’t agree with that - the damage model is off - in WT I’d have tracked that Pz 4 with a hit to the front sprocket - and often you’ll hit engines, etc and do no damage - that’s the damage model - penetration seems OK to me - shells are penetrating when you’d expect them to, and not when you wouldn’t

The damage model is off indeed. There is effectively no armor when BT-7 and T-26 go in flames from PZ IV HE shell to the side. Which according to WT shouldn’t happen. The distances are almost always very short and at 0 degree you can pen parts that aim assist thinks you can not.

Now where in my post does it say you can one shot at an angle that is not 0° ? I only said at zero you can one shot all tanks aside from the T-60 that includes the soviet ones just as well.
Furthermore you should not be able to pen the 50mm of a Pz IV or 38(t) at all with the guns of the T-60 or T-28 yet you can not only pen it even at angles other than 0° but also take out multiple if not all crew members at once with the T-28. Which is why i said that the armor effectively does not exist in tank to tank combat.

Missed this bit again did you? Heck I only posted it the once in addition you uyou actually writing it.

No problem - ther it is again - and just in case you need your own words paraphrased 'cos you don’t understand them… you say there is no effective armour in tank combat - so why would angling matter?

You angle to ward off noob players. When you take your time to aim properly, armor plays very little role. In PZ IV I had to learn to do the same as in WT - keep your turret moving between shots, otherwise anyone with some skill just insta gibs you.

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Angled armour doesn’t care whether you are a noob or not!

This isn’t WT - the T-28 has no AP round, and 34mm penetration max, vs 30, 35, 40 and 50mm armour - angling matters when it is that close to the limit - it matters a lot.