This statement is debatable, as the Ko was worse according to some sources. The Otsu’s issues come with the reliability of the bolt due to the weakness of the locking system, while the Ko had issues with jamming as it was extracting at high pressure, but the army did not know they needed to lubricate the ammo. Either way yes, the Type Hei was the best of the bunch. However, in game things like reliability and maintenance are not factors, and guns run to perfection without any faults. Thus, when you look at the raw stats, the Type Otsu’s raw stats should in theory be better than the Type Hei and Type Ko, as the they both utilized a toggle lock inspired(directly copied in the case of the Type Ko) by the Pederson rifle, and due to that system taking a longer time to cycle than the Zh-29 inspired bolt of the Type Otsu, it has a higher ROF in game (The Pederson has an identical ROF to most other semi-autos for some reason, probably lazy devs but at least they got it right here). Thus, the Type Otsu is arguably better in game, and is placed later. Granted, the Otsu could never take a 10 round mag and was always stuck at 5 while the Ko had a 10 round internal, and the Hei had magazines that went up to 20. If you also look at the datamined stats, you will find the Type Hei is the most accurate of any semi-auto gun, which is also historically accurate.
i always did notice how type hei performs better than otsu, to me type hei just feels better to handle and shoot than otsu
I’d suggest to replace Hei with Mondragon, and replace otsu with japanese garand copy (type 4 or 5)
Mondragon is a Mexican rifle, why would the Japanese have it? Furthermore, the Japanese actually deployed the Type Hei and Otsus to Okinawa, while the Type 4/5 remained on the home islands for the entire war.
AK is a soviet gun, why would the whole world have it?(same logic here)
They’ve ordered them, partly, they’re captured them from China
in total there were no more than a hundred
Aw come on dude, there’s a jumbo in a Normandy and MkB in Moscow and Fullaccessgrad,and kiraly without any hungarians, does it really matters?
P. S. You can always give them a captured garand and carbine
This literally doesn’t mean a thing.
I have never read anything about the Japanese ordering anything of the sort, and the Chinese claim is iffy at best. Mexico is a strange case in WW2 and anything involving them typically requires a few grains of salt.
But they actually used them, so we should be allowed to unlock them. Type 4/5 in the tech tree is also fine, just don’t remove the Type Hei or Otsu if you are going to do it because both of them make more sense.
Fair, but the Type Hei and Otsu are still more period accurate than the Type 4/5, and a better unlock than a captured Carbine or Garand
It seems we won’t have a time periods soon with a new BR system
Doesn’t matter because the Type 4/5 isn’t period accurate to anywhere in the Pacific.
They also bought a few a pedersen rifles, farquhar hill rifles, or a french RSC-17 rifles for the tests. they’ve choose pedersen and copied its “innards”, and called “type ko”… Same with Zh-29 and type otsu…
another interesting thing about the ostu is that it’s reload is extremely quick with the only unupgraded weapons being able to challenge it if not outright out reload it being pistols
According to the docs, the Japs captures some Fedorovs in 1938 at Hasan lake
Same with AVS-36
Aren’t you dev of WoT? One random doc and they can do whole branch of tanks about it.
No, it’s just an interesting (probably) documents, I’d like to read, and strange they didn’t copied the rifles…
Push comes to shove, there are still the long variants of the Type Hei and Otsu (Type Hei long 27.2", Type Otsu long 25.6"), which hopefully will be introduced with their 10-round magazines. Additionally, there is a variant of the Type Hei that appears to accommodate a scope mount on the left-hand side, which is promising for introducing something closer to peer to the M1C.
For reference, the in-game Type Ko is the long version (26.5"), so we can also get a short Type Ko as well (22.5").
If we are going to complain, I remind you that the Hei rifle had cartridges from 5 bullets to 20, if you want to make the exchange, I would put the Otsu first, the Hei with 10 bullets as a superior weapon to the Otsu and the gold version that it has 20 bullets and still be as slow as 10 or even a little slower to make up for it
The same guy that said" adding pershing in normandy is ok"
You are too contradictory
I said it was better than a prototype tank (T20 IIRC), was about as historically accurate as the Ju 188 being there and conceded that a 76 Jumbo was more appropriate. Also, are you really this petty as to follow people you have issue onto threads and bring irrelevant things up? In this case, the argument is about which one of the guns are more historically accurate, not about debating between multiple historically inaccurate options so my stance on that argument is irrelevant.
Hold up what???