Suggestion: more interesting infantry VS tank combat

[67929529]

wasn’t referring to you. Russians and Germans both had a number of different designs, some magnetic, some with parachutes. I think it would be a cool addition.

@8383908 Yeah they seem really inconsistent with leaning towards the negative.

[73507743]

Hi everyone, I wasn’t there to chat with you so I’ll do it now:

@67929529

make tanks even more of an industrial kill farmer.

I’m very sorry for the misunderstanding but my suggestion simply adds more options. The thing is that TNT pack doesn’t really work like an actual TNT pack. I’m not trying to make tanks OP, I want to add an option to use TNT packs for insta-killing light tanks and taking out tank transmission while for heavier tanks, players can use Molotov Cocktails and AT grenades. Molotov Cocktail is even easier to throw than TNT pack plus it can be carried by pretty much everyone.

@67929529

inb4 that wuz propaganda

Off-topic, I won’t answer this

@67929529

Easy fix is find a friend to cover you from infantry and their literal one, very short range counter to your hundreds of rounds of MG and HE ammo

That is doable even with the current system and it’s called team work and good tactic

When I struggle to take out a tank, I just built a cannon, bomb the tank or take it out with another tank

[15890973]

1. Molotov Cocktail…
   ​Pros:
   *Can take out every tank in the game

What about the T-34? It could definitely be damaged by Molotov Cocktails to a certain amount, But it was liquid cooled, diesel powered and had a redesigned engine cover to counter the use of such incendiary devices.

[73507743]

I know that but I’m concerned about the gameplay

We can avoid that part, t-34 with all it’s glory will be hard to implement

[24629012]

So its buff cause it nerfs changes to kill tanks? Yeah buff to tankers they really need it.

Mayby we need more intresting tank gameplay. Like increasing tank cooldown to 16 squads, its major buff cause its decreases tankers dead count to 1 per match

[67929529]

“have all hand held anti-tank consume 90% of your inventory slots”
That’s a super hard nerf

“make TNT less effective at killing tanks on top of taking up all your inventory”
This is another super hard nerf

“add another inventory item you have to farm to equip, but also make it less effective at killing tanks and also have it take up all your inventory slots”
yet another nerf to infantry anti-tank capability.

Why not just say “I find it unacceptable my Russian wonder weapon gets destroyed by infantry so often”

If you’re that worried about infantry killing your tank War Thunder is another great game by Gaijin and has plenty of Russian premium tanks and zero infantry. (some modes do have AI anti-tank guns tho)

[73507743]

@67929529

“have all hand held anti-tank consume 90% of your inventory slots”
That’s a super hard nerf

“make TNT less effective at killing tanks on top of taking up all your inventory”
This is another super hard nerf

“add another inventory item you have to farm to equip, but also make it less effective at killing tanks and also have it take up all your inventory slots”
yet another nerf to infantry anti-tank capability

You haven’t read the news haven’t you

@Keofox

Backpack, grenade and explosives pouch, ammo bandolier. These are example illustrations

After studying your feedback we decided to rework the equipment system for soldiers, limiting the amount of different items you can take into a fight.

The inventory size will be lowered by default and most soldiers will get new slot for specific kinds of carry, allowing planning and organizing carrying equipment in the squad with better precision and tactics, being limited in its type:

• Backpack — allows you to take more inventory items, like medpacks.
• Ammo bag — increases carried ammo supply for the main weapon.
• Grenade bag — you can equip more grenades, but less of other item types

I don’t want to nerf them, I want to replace them with Molotovs because it’s more cool looking

@24629012

So its buff cause it nerfs changes to kill tanks? Yeah buff to tankers they really need it.

That goes to you too

[67929529]

. (totally not mad at being called out, check out my smiley faces while I move goal posts for the sake of my thinly veiled argument)

changing the inventory system to accommodate modifiers like backpacks and bandoliers does not equal making TNT the only thing you can carry.

Like I said, at the very least you can be honest and just say " I think tanks are too easy to destroy"

[73507743]

@67929529

" I think tanks are too easy to destroy"

I think the way tanks are being taken out is boring and I would like more options

[24811726]

like what - dog mines? Kamikaze foxholes??

[73507743]

@24811726

dog mines? Kamikaze foxholes??

I’m not going to answer this

[33349666]

Make dog mines the russian version of goliath

[24811726]

Well like what then?

We currently have tanks, anti tank guns, aircraft, anti-tank rifles, some hollow-charge infantry weapons like PIAT, hand-thrown explosives and molotovs, flamethrowers?

What “more interesting” ways do you see??

[73507743]

@24811726

What “more interesting” ways do you see?

I’m not going to answer this

I don’t want to argue

You don’t like the idea? Just say it

[24811726]

If I didn’t like the idea I would say so - I want to know what is more interesting??

There is no argument here ffs!!

[73507743]

@24811726

I want to know what is more interesting??

@73507743

1. Molotov Cocktail

Molotov Cocktail should be the standard anti-tank weapon for every trooper. When using this weapon, you can even take out a Tiger tank just by hitting the engine area, Problem with it is that it takes a bit of time for a tank to completely burn up so it makes Molotov Cocktails a jack-of-all-trades-master-of-none weapon. To deal damage, Molotov must be thrown exactly on top of the engine area.

Pros:
*Can take out every tank in the game
*Lightweight so it can be carried together with other grenades
*Easy to use

Cons
*Takes 30-60 seconds for a tank to burn up
*Can only deal damage when thrown on the engine block
*Player has to get behind the tank in order to hit the weakspot

2. TNT pack (changed)

In real life, This weapon was good when destroying tank tracks and transmission.

In Enlisted, it can be very deadly against armored cars and light tanks, but basically any tank with better armour will be almost immune to this weapon. TNT pack has about ~20mm of armour penetration and can be very good when thrown underneath the tank or on top of it.
TNT pack almost always damages tank tracks even when thrown 1-2 meters away from the tank. It can be used to immobilize a heavier tank or destroy a lighter tank.

Pros
*Devastating damage when the armour is penetrated
*Can easily blow up tracks
*Can destroy other objects and vehicles (already present mechanic)

Cons
*Very bad armour penetration
*Heavy ! Takes a lot of inventory space, only lefts one space for a Molotov or a hand grenade and medkit

3. Anti-tank grenade

This weapon is only present in the battle of Moscow due to the lack of use after rocket launcher was developed.

AT grenade is a very deadly weapon and the strongest against the tanks. It basically works like TNT pack with more armour penetration but worse blast radius. But it comes with a prize, it takes ALL the inventory slots only leaving the spot for medkits. When the armour is penetrated, it deals less damage than the TNT pack

Pros
*Great damage
*Can destroy medium 1941 tanks from the side, rear, top and bottom hull area
*Very easy to use

Cons
*Heavy ! Takes almost all the inventory space only leaving the medkit
*Deals less damage than the TNT pack
*Can’t take out tank tracks as efficient as the TNT pack can

Why are you doing this to me

[24629012]

Snowballs… yes, SNOWBALLS but only after every other at solution is nerfed to ground.
Best regards: TonkerKing2013

[24811726]

Doing what??

So just the originals - OK - sorry - thought there was something more.

[5762269]

No. The AT grenade would be more consistent than the current explosive pack in killing tanks, while the explosive pack would be more consistent in immobilizing tanks and demolishing structures, even though it would be slightly less effective than it is currently. Molotovs take a little while, they are the most consistent at killing a tank.

Grenade spam had to be nerfed to begin with, so this makes it so that a grenade spam nerf doesn’t significantly affect anti-tank capabilities.

[73507743]

thanks man

You’ve put it up better than I could