You’re right it’s actually stronger. I’ll remind you again it can one hit super pershing from the front
There is a huge difference when armor is sloped or not, flat 80mm armor isn’t insanely strong
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Why dont you show a picture backing up your claims that the sloped part isnt 80mm. That’s literally the main part of hull where yiu would shoot. Why would stats say it’s 80 if it’s not
But I already gave you pictures of where it can be penetrated? That green area where it can be penned includes the sloped parts, so it doesn’t matter. No matter how you try to spin this as an indestructible monster, it isn’t
That doesn’t show the armor values though now does it? You could be using a different round/tank. If it’s 80mm then shermans arent penning it as i just demonstrated here
Lmao. Go read all the messages. I know you haven’t because i literally typed up a message saying they have 102-104 penn
But you make so many stupid points in your messages that it’s just not worth it. Talking with you feels like torture.
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It wouldn’t be 80mms sloped if a sherman can pen it, if that was the case, the sherman could pen the Pz IV/70 V, which it can’t. Even then if I entertain your idea, it is still easily penetrable in other places. Just look at the M5 stuart’s 37mm APCBC pen chart I gave you, even BR1 can penetrate all that.
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I’ll make it easy
It has 80mm frontal armor. Sherman pens 102-104. Track armor is what? 14mm? That’s 94mm there, the slope probably adds atleast another 10 or so.
80mm armor here that has similar slope Sherman cant penn anywhere
But i don’t know that, it’s just a picture with green spots. No other information. I dont have warthunder so i cant go look for myself to see what the armor is there
The StuHs frontal armor isn’t sloped! It’s flat! Look at its cheeks!
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I’ve said multiple times that sloped armor makes tanks much more survivable, the M4a2 for example only has 60mms front armor, but the slope makes it equivilant to 90 or so milimeters. But genuinely, how are you not getting this? You’ve outlined this yourself, the sherman has 102 or so mms of pen, it can’t penetrate the Pz IV/70 V, so therefore sloped 80mm armor is too thick. I’ve shown you that the sloped section is able to be penetrated by the sherman, so therefore it is under 80mms thick.
The green is all you need from the picture, it is where it can be penetrated by the sherman, you don’t need anything else. The sloped parts are green. They can be penetrated.
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That’s roof armor
You get the arcade thing that shows you where your shell will hit.
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But you havent? How many times do i have to say the same thing. You showed me a picture with green spots on it. It doesn’t have any information on it like sherman m4a2 or 75mm ap/heat/apcbc etc. It doesn’t show any armor values. You have only supplied a picture and simply told me “look, the sherman can penn it everywhere, skill issue”. Do you understand this isn’t a sufficient amount of information to hold up in a court of law. I’m asking for evidence. If you cant supply the actual armor values of the plates then you should atleast show what tank and shell is being used on that simulation. My word
Armor values of the plates would be best because of game discrepancies, and i told you i don’t have warthunder to go check the vehicle there myself.
Heres the armor viewer for it
Keep in mind there’s a double plate 50mm + 30mm on the hull
But yeah either way a Sherman will pen it
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Thankyou!
Do you play tanks in this game? Lol. It’s almost impossible to intentionally hit a visor hatch or mg hole from a distance
But we finally got the plate values.