Mkb is still the same as Moscow, just less balanced and without a scope.
A slightly worse version of the one in Normandy.
Same as regular one.
In Moscow.
Honestly, while I do agree with you on the poiint of ‘stop whining, noone’s forcing you to play it’, I do have to disagree here. Stalingrad gear is just copy+paste with some “new” warthunder assets.
it’s what made me not only not buy it, but not even touch it.
Well. The 39M is in the “starter” progress of Stalingrad while it is a new one in Moscow so its technically from Stalingrad. Also the 39M was first presented with Stalingrad level list and not Moscow ones. Same applies to the F2 for the same reasons.
Well. State-wise they are different guns, especially the Mkb. Otherwise basically all ba rifles are copy+paste at the end apart Winchester I guess.
Stat-wise is slightly worse iirc. as it has less rof.
I mean Your argument makes no sense, both campaigns got this weapons in one updates.
Trying to say that it’s copied from the other way around is pointless.
What woud be the argument if the campaign wasnt copy+paste (small reminder that we discuss here if Tunisia or Stalingrad ccopied more) but rather Asia (idk Japs against US)?
Still just too copy+paste?
Doesn’t change the fact that it isn’t unique.
I don’t care which was announced first (to make more people buy Stalingrad), they came out in the same patch and are currently accessible in both of them.
And no, the F2 isn’t from Stalingrad, it’s from warthunder.
It’s literally the same gun just with different attachments and restriction. It’s more op, but acts the same.
Inf wise yes, scope wise no. Matter of definition I guess then.
Except having 100 less rof. Also its less accurate than the scope one for some reason.
Agree.
Well. Having a assault rifle usable by more classes than the sniper is unique since Germans dont have this feature/ weapon unlike the Soviets with the AVS and the AVT.
Then why dont come with this in first place instead of saying its from Moscow while it was copied for Moscow? If the copy+paste was it, he could just say that.
The fact remains, there is 1 new gun that’s not in other campaigns.
Trying to argue that gun with a scope is diffrent is laughable, like germande needed more automatic guns for infantry and fg42 never existed in this game.
They wanted to focus on bolt action, becasue there is so much hate on full auto spam.
So they come out, said thanks for feedback we listened, here is mkb for intantry lol
Yes, which is why I never see them as unique or interesting.
I’d still consider it the same gun.
Well, they “forgot” to nerf the sniper version, otherwise the rof should be the same. And the accuracy difference is the same for all sniper and non-sniper guns. Simply having a scope makes them shoot more accurately (which actually makes sense).
AVS and AVT aren’t assault rifles.
But if you do count battle rifles then FG42 exists.
So, yes it’s the first true assault rifle usable by engineers. But it has the same type of gameplay of FG42, while being a coyp pasted asset.
I wouldn’t call it unique.
Thompson… Like the two version in France dont exist anymore. Yeah. The M21 plays sooo much different and is so new (and now its in Stalingrad too).
Enfield? The US one which is a nerfed British Enfield? Oh boy. A six-round Enfield with very similiar sight. Or the one we already have in Normandy?
Carcano? Ehh Maybe the sniper version with its low scope zoom but also no new invention or new states here apart slightly different sight.
Well. Shovel and bikes no one uses against (free) bombers and flamer tankers which are both more usefull and popular than the bikes and shovel.
Vickers is Bren with worse iron sight, Carcanos are reskinned ba rifles with one additional clip, Johnson is from Normandy.
Cool. OVP, Boys and awful Italian SA are really new/ unique. After only 32 levels.