Just going to skip over the crappy hypothetical now, because it’s just dead
It’s not about whether anyone cares what I want, It’s just about having my say, it doesn’t matter if no one else agrees, at least I got to say it
what stats you got that prove what? The stats below?:
But if those stats are generalized that still does not tell you per match what is the bot breakdown right? because as you said, they are not identified?
Also bots aren’t the ones quitting, players are, so of course that is player responsibility
quality matches are the last thing you are helping to achieve
you are creating more poor quality matches thanks to your match hopping and quitting, this is a player created issue due to the culture of the players engaging in it, look, I am now part of that problem too, because now I do it too…and I take responsibility for it, it’s my fault too now, because I joined the quit culture of this game.
I don’t want to dictate how players play, that is what you admitted to doing. I want to see players stick to matches so we have better matches, because the quit culture is responsible for making more crap matches, but you call it quality, because they are favorable to you, because your issue isn’t that the other team has more bots and less players, you just want to win more and lose less, I get it
It’s like saying prove that taking more game actions that provide more xp is going to provide more xp, of course it will, that is how it works, there is no stats needed to prove that, it’s just a fact of how things work
Well, fair share of said community said they would simply leave the game if your suggestion was ever taken seriously.
So we know for sure people would leave.
Yet not a single soul ever said they would come back to game / install the game if your suggestion would be taken seriously.
So unless you have some actual data that proves your suggestion would bring players, its just another shitpost from you.
it would work source trustmebro
Exactly why people have been asking for proper matchmake and exactly why they are working on proper matchmake.
Nice try.
Yeah, got to agree this game has some variety on its playerbase. I know theres that one guy at forums making absolutely stupid suggestion frequently and apparently hes expecting different results everytime.
Like seriously, can you believe these guys ?
So you just want attention ?
Well before you make any more of these posts I can tell you that even if you made million topics about the subject it wont become true.
Saves alot of time for you.
Sure it would regardless entire community disagrees with you.
No, not really. In this exact case it would also fit in definition of insanity.
Suggesting same idiotic thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Which most likely is the reason why your posts gets flagged too, since its been explained in detail to you countless times in your previous topics why your suggestion is absolute trash.
Its quite alot easier to just flag your posts than waste time trying to explain simple things to you.
Some people would learn if they were given a coloring book & crayons about the subject but I doubt it would help in your case.
So its just easier to flag your suggestions as spam, which they pretty much are.
Hate is quite strong word, id say we do not consider you as credible person to do this suggestions.
Perhaps you should try and gain some credibility by delivering your stats ?
Of course some would leave, so what? People already left this game because of the poor culture around it and you don’t care, so why worry about some others leaving because they can’t yet see the benefit to something they cannot comprehend because they are gripped by the fear of it without understanding it, like I said, together with this suggestion would be map choice & better balanced mm, so it wouldn’t be a solo implementation. However, even on its own it would still have merit and help.
Well the only data to exist there would be to survey people that don’t play anymore and ask them and hopefully they give an honest answer, if they care to answer at all. But also depends on how you word it
for example, i know that if I was asked a while back why I left and hadn’t come back, that would be the reason, because of the quit culture around the game and how bad it is for matches.
Now I realized that if I do it too, then I can avoid that also. But that is still not the right fix for this issue.
So I might not know the exact reason for each individual that hasn’t returned, and obviously there would be a range of other reasons. But I know, if someone told me a while back that virtually zero players were quitting matches anymore, that would have made me want to play more and stay with the game longer.
This is not shitposting btw, just blanket calling someone shitposting is getting a bit worn out now, it’s just you disagreeing with me, that isn’t what a shitpost is.
why would it not, it already works now
people are already saying that br won’t be a proper matchmaker, and people admitting they will continue to quite matches all the same, so I doubt this will fix the problem of quitters, people admit it openly they will continue to quit matches, so what makes you think that will change that?
not really, just post what I want to say, you the ones giving me attention, I don’t need it, but you keep giving it to me, you have a weird obsession with me, it’s really weird
It doesn’t matter if it doesn’t become true, it’s my time, I do with it what I want
mobs once thought the earth was flat, and even today there are groups that believe it, doesn’t mean they are right
Only by your false allocation of the definition, because you don’t understand that I am not expecting any results or different results, so you are again presuming incorrectly
Well that is all subjective, which means that in reality your refusal of the suggestion from my point of view is trash
As I have explained very simply why the suggestion would work and how, it’s not my fault if people are not smart enough to understand it or respectful enough to tolerate it.
Same applies to you, not even all the stats in the world would help you
Subjective opinion, again wrong, it’s not spam, because otherwise all forum posts would be spam, especially since the topic was raised again, and there are many other topics that raised again and again for discussion and people repeat their opinions over and over again, that happens in a forum, it’s how they work.
Well you are not a credible person to dismiss my suggestion, in fact, you are so lacking in intelligence, decency and respect, that you shouldn’t even be talking to me, as just having to explain simple things to you makes me feel like I am dealing with an immature child.
Stats will never be a substitute for credibility
but please, go ahead and tell me what stats you think would make me credible?
2000 game hours? 200k kills? 80% win rate? 3000 matches? what is your social credit score in stats to qualify someone as credible according to you?
This exactly is shitposting, as you are suggesting same shit that absolutely no one agrees with over and over again.
You even made more than few topics about the exact same thing and again no one agreed with you.
Not even your parents.
what is not identified? these are 100% identified bots prematch and postmatch. i can give you detailed bot analysis for every of 230k matches in past week. only thing that i have not 100% identified is MM bug matches. and that is cause of lack of data. i can only identify set of matches that fit MM bug criteria (and that is 3%), but to confirm it i would need other data.
majority of bots are put into game whether players are quitting or not quitting. players quitting only makes small part of bots.
if you want full breakdown here is topic, later posts are more relevant/accurate
nah… you just refused to accept it. i could have made hypothetical in magical world with tentacle monster, you would still find way to say hypothetical is impossible. you had binary choice, but you just had to introduce your (faulty) narrative to invalidate second choice.
of course you need stats to prove it. you are saying that players not quitting will magically fix the game. from what data are you getting that analysis? cause i have data from 230k matches that says that 80% of bots arent players fault.
OK all suggestions are welcome So none of this segregation or stats here and conversations not shut people down having a conversation And another reason I desert it’s because the servers are bad it’s so laggy they need to add oceanic Server
<>play enlisted against bots
<>get absolutely fucking arsestomped
<>be in the root of the gauss-curve in all aspects of life
<>don’t practice to get better
<>instead practice moaning harder than a 50y/o twilight twinkle porn star
<> finally get it:
<>“it’s not my fault that I suck more than a Hoover. It’s everybody else’s fault!”
<>Dunning-Kruger-effecting your way through the forums
<>spread the gospel
<>get absolutely fucking arsestomped by plebs again
<>ohno.png
<>go full denial
<>panic
<>stutter: “facts don’t need proofing”
<>Everybody: Nobody: “what?”
<>do animesmugface.jpg
<>“statistics don’t proof anything!1”
<>feel like an anime protagonist
<>from zero to a demigod of the internet
<>be DNAmodsNP
<>the legend
<>“You can’t prove facts!” gets etched to your tombstone
<>be year 2964
<>“Successfully degraded the intellect of the global community by a full decile”
<>Gold inlaid text in your mausoleum where technowizards go pilgrimage to check;
Call me a masochist. But I don’t mind playing alone with 9 bots vs 10 players.
It’s hardcore hard and 99.9% you’ll lose the battle, but I’m the one with 5k points and the best on the winning team only 3k.
Or when you see a dude camps the whole battle and has 0 deaths and you kill him just before the end and you know he’s throwing the homosexual curse on you.
They really hate my suggestion and me so they want to smear me and attack me, they fear more than anything if this suggestion got implemented and it would prove itself to be very effective because it would be
It would be hilarious if it got implemented just to enjoy their reactions lol
They actually need stats to prove that reward and punishment is an effective method of guiding human behavior, they don’t know how humans work and that stats aren’t necessary to prove such basic things, despite the reward system already being effective in keeping players playing, no stats needed to prove that, it’s just a fact
something so simple and they need stats to prove it, it just doesn’t get any dumber then this
and then they try to ridicule me for being dumb
just have to agree to disagree because already destroyed all their arguments into dust
and they are just filthy hypocrites, they accuse me of the same thing they engage in, it’s called gaslighting
well yes you need stats to prove it. i am not asking for your personal stats, but game stats and maybe similar game and data for it where you can prove that your solution would work.
i have data that quality of games wont significantly improve with stopping players from deserting cause most of the times we enter game with 7.64 bots on average and we end match with 10.08 bots. players deserting are only responsible for 2.44 bots per match. and cause of player disparity, most of those bots are usually on one side.
i will make big analysis in day or two so you can wait and read all about it then.
nah… you just ignored them and told yourself that you destroyed them.
maybe read, i already put link for this topic before? there is also link where you can datamine all data to compile your statistics if you dont believe mine.
you obviously dont understand human behavior. just check the recent covid situation. how many people rebelled against vaccines? people lost jobs, friends and access to some services. governments introduced rather harsh penalties for not getting vaccinated and see how it worked out?
