or dunno not from 12 o clock
yes mr troll, i can aim, does that have anything to do with the topic?
im talking about penetration, if you dont want to stay logical here go waste someone elses time
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Yup… what keep me away from Berlin is the tank combat… I’m more scared having my panther against T-34 than having my t-34 against the panther dude. And the more I play it, the more it feels broken. At the beginning I could easily kill 10 T-34 in a single game, and now it feels like I can’t do anything to them anymore. So the bounce shit is very problematic, but if you look at it, don’t forget the turret bug which increase the unfair shit of the T-34 by a lot… and I think that turret bug is actually more important to solve than the T-34 itself, since you’re aiming at what you see, thinking you will pen, but the enemy turret is not facing the way you see it, which is probably why it is so broken to pen, so you don’t even know what you aim at…
So Russians are able to push easily because of their tanks, since german tanks can’t even live enough to even TRY. That might be one of the reasons russians win easily. T-34 is so noob friendly that the whole russian team can push with tanks. In Moscou for exemple, tanks require a lot more skills to survive and push, except for the T-60 if not facing PzIV or PZIII E. In Moscou, you can tell if the guy driving it is a noob or not, they will keep pushing and dying in a few seconds. But in Berlin, russian noob tankers will keep pushing and killing since most of the tank opposition is the PzIV, which can be one shot, so no skill involved. And russian infantry is pushing so hard that most T-34 can’t be flanked by infantry either, so the only way is tank, but german tanks are joke with all these problems.
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disbelief has errupted in me
To get back to the topic, what I am saying is that the T34 85 should be a one - two shot kill.
yet the PzIVj struggles to pen the frontal armor which makes zero sense.
And even worse the T34 will bounce shots from the Panther tank from time to time, which is straight up insane. Even with the turret bug being a thing, a center mass shot from a panther should blow that bad boy up in 90% of the time.
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Anyway, i think it’s a you problem and i find no issue with the 75mm of the Pz4 and the T-34’s armor.
and your 12’o clock problem is equivalent to my previous assumption, which I made T-34-85 angled 45 degree.
I think your not answering my questions, which tells me you know very well that I’m right.
it’s not hit point and it is depending to where you aim, those mf go out of commision like the PZ4 does vs them with a little effort when shooting
even at a 30 degree angle the KwK 40 will pen the T34 frontal armor at over 500m distance. We shouldnt even have to talk about this.
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No, you’re not, what i said stands it’s a you problem and here’s these just so you know i haven’t tocuhed the soviets in berlin
oh and if part of your issue i post pen damage then that should be a universal problewm not a “muh t-34 is unkillable”
Just tell me can or can not Pz IV J pen T-34-85 after I homeschooled you high school physics?
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Im not saying that the game needs to be 100% representing realism, some room for “gameplay” can be added.
but if both tanks were able to pen each other, and since who ever hits first won the fight back in the day, then giving one tank artificial HP to survive multiple shoots while the other gets OHKO’d all the time is just straight up unbalance as well as big BS.
Homeschooled me in physics
Can’t pen a T-34
Totally not a skill issue and multiple factors discounted
Instead of arguing with facts, you chose a funny way expressing your lack of intelligence.
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You the literal embodyment of the WT forum guy who thinks he knows physics and watched a history channel doc and then get sealclubbed due to half assed perspectives, stats and complete lack of analysis
Which part did I get wrong, would you please kindly advise me?
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2 of them would be point of contact and the actual angle not just the lab rat type tests, no go an find someone on the spectrum such as you self who will debate hours about things such as these
So 45 degrees is not “enough angled”? if you angle more than this then what’s the point? By 45 degrees I mean the position of a tank, not the armor, in case you get me wrong.
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